Instant Upgrade Offers

"DudeMan;233002" wrote:
I'd be interested to know if the person who posted the screenshot was max level or not. If they are only level 42, than it's possible that they were offered to cap the character at its current max. Maybe a level 70 would be offered a better deal.

Nope. I'm level 70 and got offered a $15.99 boost on my newly activated Greedo. Same conditions of level 42 and gear 6. Significantly less useful than that poggle since hes a 2* so it's an even worse deal.

"Qeltar;232939" wrote:
Here's an example someone posted on the Reddit:
http://i.imgur.com/x5Ala1I.png
Anyone who has been around a while knows just how bad a deal that is (probably like $15 in the US). Getting to level 42 costs under 200 2-star training droids and 200k credits, and most of us have more low-level gear than we know what to do with.
Just another way to rip off newbies. Nice priorities on the development there guys. :(

"Qeltar;232939" wrote:
Here's an example someone posted on the Reddit:
http://i.imgur.com/x5Ala1I.png
Anyone who has been around a while knows just how bad a deal that is (probably like $15 in the US). Getting to level 42 costs under 200 2-star training droids and 200k credits, and most of us have more low-level gear than we know what to do with.
Just another way to rip off newbies. Nice priorities on the development there guys. :(

+infinity
+so much i had to dbl copy it lol

"Dekayingsoul;233124" wrote:

"Phlebotomy_Jones;233110" wrote:
Horrible execution. This instant upgrade replaces almost no effort in the game...

Even my 8 year old thinks it's a giant rip off.

Following the Lando Fiasco and the rumored upcoming Poe/Phasma promotion, it really feels like the devs put little to no effort or thought into rewarding players but countless hours into finding ways to skim money.

The character of the month hasn't been worthwhile, the crystal subscriptions replaced with a worse offer, the training droid bundles, the event and challenge rewards, ridiculously priced character packs which never return, Aurodium packs...the list just goes on and on…

Although my kid's pretty wise for her age, I just can't believe there are regular players spending money in this game. Oh I know someone always will, and there is lots of evidence that 1% of players support the industry...but why not draw in the casual spenders too?

When the game launched in Dec., the prices and rewards had me pushing the game and even spending.

Haven't spent a dime since the TFA bundle, and there hasn't been a single change since which has encouraged me to.

This isn't one either, I'm actually a little insulted at the pricing.

I thought this game was handling the freemium model better....boy have I been fooled.

I still like the game, but it's going to take a big change of direction to get any more money from me. I know that's a tiny ripple in the ocean...

Sorry didn't mean this to be a rant, but abusive freemium monetization really irritates me and this seems like another step down that road.

Players have the right to spend their money anyway they want to, and the Dervs have the right to try to make money as games are not ran by volunteers. It's your choice if you want to pay or not.

Thanks for clarifying that; I had no idea there was a free enterprise system in which companies sought profit, nor that I had any choice in the matter. Now I can make better informed decisions, which was kinda the point…

My comment was essentially an inditement of the freemium system and the consequent deferment of my participation in this particular iteration.

There's an interesting article about freemium game models here, if you want to better inform yourself too:

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/23/free-to-play-games-are-not-the-way-forward-for-mobile-gaming/

"President_Scroob;233364" wrote:

"InternetSwag;233357" wrote:
To be honest though, is anything in this game not a cash grab? Nothing is cheap in this game.
Aurodiums, chromiums, card packs. This is inline with prior pricing.

And if they can keep releasing overpriced content - it means people are buying.

I made a thread earlier telling people to "Beat the cash grab, hold onto your resources till meta change" It was erased within minutes of posting and I was told not to tell people not to spend money.

Im quite sure lol

"InternetSwag;233126" wrote:
What this could mean is that the credit crunch will stay. So this is how they address it?

What!? That is almost no credit savings. What 300k? We need what 7M for level1 to 80 4 star to 7 star and gear and skills.

When I first read the update, I was thinking it'd be a boost up to 7 star lvl 70 with lvl 7 abilities and gear for like 30-40 usd. But this is not even close to being worth it.

"Dekayingsoul;233412" wrote:
@Phlebotomy_Jones the current model they are using works, and will continue to do so for this and many other games. The problem is that after their first quarter numbers they are currently running at a 29% decrease in revenue per month. While there is not way to tell what there budgets were one could imagine that there were wanting/expecting a profit increase. Without doing any research as to why they are losing they are going tward offering players new ways to spend their money not listening or asking the customers (players) why they have stopped spending. The "grab" for money will continue until the start to listen or they pull funding for the game.

In these points we are in agreement. They, like others, are desperate to get more money from that top 10% of paying players.

Although according to that SWRVE report 40% of sales are in the $0-5 range, it's only 16% of revenue.

My view, and it seems we agree here, is that these developers seem to only be interested in enticing larger repeat sales from the top end. To me it seems the whole industry is focused upon getting more from the paying players instead of getting more players to pay.

With stupidly high prices and low in-game value (which is easily perceived by even young players), a decline is obvious.

No one keeps going to that family, round the corner restaurant once they get "a little too proud and pricey."

Apologies, I've gone on again, and really just meant to say that we seem to agree and to apologize if I was smug.

Edit: I'm surprised s t u p i d l y is blocked
Edit edit: sounds like stew-ped

"Phlebotomy_Jones;233356" wrote:

"Dekayingsoul;233124" wrote:

"Phlebotomy_Jones;233110" wrote:
Horrible execution. This instant upgrade replaces almost no effort in the game...

Even my 8 year old thinks it's a giant rip off.

Following the Lando Fiasco and the rumored upcoming Poe/Phasma promotion, it really feels like the devs put little to no effort or thought into rewarding players but countless hours into finding ways to skim money.

The character of the month hasn't been worthwhile, the crystal subscriptions replaced with a worse offer, the training droid bundles, the event and challenge rewards, ridiculously priced character packs which never return, Aurodium packs...the list just goes on and on…

Although my kid's pretty wise for her age, I just can't believe there are regular players spending money in this game. Oh I know someone always will, and there is lots of evidence that 1% of players support the industry...but why not draw in the casual spenders too?

When the game launched in Dec., the prices and rewards had me pushing the game and even spending.

Haven't spent a dime since the TFA bundle, and there hasn't been a single change since which has encouraged me to.

This isn't one either, I'm actually a little insulted at the pricing.

I thought this game was handling the freemium model better....boy have I been fooled.

I still like the game, but it's going to take a big change of direction to get any more money from me. I know that's a tiny ripple in the ocean...

Sorry didn't mean this to be a rant, but abusive freemium monetization really irritates me and this seems like another step down that road.

Players have the right to spend their money anyway they want to, and the Dervs have the right to try to make money as games are not ran by volunteers. It's your choice if you want to pay or not.

Thanks for clarifying that; I had no idea there was a free enterprise system in which companies sought profit, nor that I had any choice in the matter. Now I can make better informed decisions, which was kinda the point…

My comment was essentially an inditement of the freemium system and the consequent deferment of my participation in this particular iteration.

There's an interesting article about freemium game models here, if you want to better inform yourself too:

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/23/free-to-play-games-are-not-the-way-forward-for-mobile-gaming/

From your link.
"Another way to keep keen players coming back would be to reduce the privileges given in purchases so they will need to buy more to play more."

Seems to be what CG/EA has decided

Preach. I'll probably be warned for this.

"Mo_liza;233488" wrote:

"Phlebotomy_Jones;233356" wrote:

"Dekayingsoul;233124" wrote:

"Phlebotomy_Jones;233110" wrote:
Horrible execution. This instant upgrade replaces almost no effort in the game...

Even my 8 year old thinks it's a giant rip off.

Following the Lando Fiasco and the rumored upcoming Poe/Phasma promotion, it really feels like the devs put little to no effort or thought into rewarding players but countless hours into finding ways to skim money.

The character of the month hasn't been worthwhile, the crystal subscriptions replaced with a worse offer, the training droid bundles, the event and challenge rewards, ridiculously priced character packs which never return, Aurodium packs...the list just goes on and on…

Although my kid's pretty wise for her age, I just can't believe there are regular players spending money in this game. Oh I know someone always will, and there is lots of evidence that 1% of players support the industry...but why not draw in the casual spenders too?

When the game launched in Dec., the prices and rewards had me pushing the game and even spending.

Haven't spent a dime since the TFA bundle, and there hasn't been a single change since which has encouraged me to.

This isn't one either, I'm actually a little insulted at the pricing.

I thought this game was handling the freemium model better....boy have I been fooled.

I still like the game, but it's going to take a big change of direction to get any more money from me. I know that's a tiny ripple in the ocean...

Sorry didn't mean this to be a rant, but abusive freemium monetization really irritates me and this seems like another step down that road.

Players have the right to spend their money anyway they want to, and the Dervs have the right to try to make money as games are not ran by volunteers. It's your choice if you want to pay or not.

Thanks for clarifying that; I had no idea there was a free enterprise system in which companies sought profit, nor that I had any choice in the matter. Now I can make better informed decisions, which was kinda the point…

My comment was essentially an inditement of the freemium system and the consequent deferment of my participation in this particular iteration.

There's an interesting article about freemium game models here, if you want to better inform yourself too:

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/03/23/free-to-play-games-are-not-the-way-forward-for-mobile-gaming/

From your link.
"Another way to keep keen players coming back would be to reduce the privileges given in purchases so they will need to buy more to play more."

Seems to be what CG/EA has decided

I'm no marketer pushing monetization, but to me, in any other industry, that seems like a great way to kill repeat business.

But that strategy with upwards price creep seems to rule the day.

My hope is that the slow downward trend for top spenders reveals this to be true and the gaming industry matures from the "grab it now" model to encourage a wider diversity of spenders, without the easy to spot manipulation of new players.