Is CG going to fix the KAM mission in time for LS Geo? We know they can't fix it mid-TB, as they've asserted in the past they can't do such things. I went and checked the dev tracker and it's still being investigated. Only a few days left and we still don't have any word on a fix, just CG's promise at the end of the last TB they'd have it fixed for this one. And of course no mention, ever, of any compensation for them breaking the mission in the first place by their own actions. It'd be nice if we customers stopped being punished because of developer screwups. Or, if we're going to be hindered by bugs since they are quite plentiful (and in some instances never seem to get fixed), we could get compensated for those bugs interfering in our gameplay experience.

From Doja earlier on Discord:"Also, the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)."Looks like if they can't get it fixed before the scheduled start of TB they might just delay it and probably run TW instead

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See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questionsHe'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about itRather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed insteadI would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questionsHe'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about itRather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed insteadI would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”. Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy."Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be grantedI added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

Is KAM mission getting fixed before LS Geo?

DarkHelmet1138
4 years ago
"StarSon;c-2275728" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275717" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275710" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275706" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275698" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275697" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275691" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2275687" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275683" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2275680" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275670" wrote:
"FerociousPanda;c-2275657" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275625" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275613" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead

I would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy.

"Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be granted

I added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

The question was, will it be fixed before the event launches. Please underline the part where that is expressly answered, so that this thread would not need to exist.

If it's not promising anything, then no one is better informed than , it's under investigation. All he is saying is it's under investigation in a longer way.

I agree that it can help to rehash information, but that doesnt mean more information was added or that it is helpful in any way towards that actual problem.

I don’t want to speak on behalf of Inyak, but it’s pretty clear from the framing of the OP that they see the start of The next LS TB as a “deadline” for a fix coming in time, because CG has said time and time again that they don’t want to do fixes in the middle of these events. If they don’t fix it before the start of TB, then players would have to do the KAM mission while the bug still persists, which is why Inyak made this thread. Doja’s message doesn’t give a concrete y/n answer but does open the door to the possibility that TB gets rescheduled so they can get the fix in before it runs, which we did not know was a possibility until he said so. So while Doja couldn’t explicitly answer the question, he gave us more information to alleviate some worries that people are having, and I doubt this thread would have been made had he posted something like this on the forum, because then we would just wait for him to come back with more information. If you can’t do simple reading in between the lines and insist on taking everything literally, then I don’t know what else to say

He said it's possible, not that they are going to do it, anything is possible. It's also possible that they leave it this way and run the TB as scheduled. It solves/resolves nothing. The question is still valid, and any possibility of changing the schedule doesnt make the start time of LSTB any less of a deadline.

Let's wait and see what actually happens.

Yes anything is technically possible. It's possible, however unlikely, that they decide tomorrow to randomly delete malak from the game.

I would say the chance of them shifting the schedule to be much higher since they are looking at it as an option. So the comparison of "anything is possible" isn't all that great here.

Yes, but that's my point this has always been a possibility, but it doesnt answer the question of will it be fixed before the TB runs.

Yes the calendar shifting is always a possibility but not very likely. But with them considering it, it is much more likely than before. That is good information to have. So there's really nothing wrong with updating us.

I know if tb changes, I'd rather know a bit ahead than be blindsided by it at the last minute.

Why update us when they can just not say anything at all? Saying nothing is way easier.

Saying something when they have something that will actually take place is the easiest and least messy.

Hard disagree. As has been pointed out to you many times in this thread, coming here to say what they said on the Discord yesterday is not messy or hard. It promises nothing but lets the player base at large know what's going on. I mean, I know that's not usually what they do, but it would certainly be nice if they did.

But as in life things dont always work out the way you want. Which is how things get messy, like they are right now.

What would have been cleaner and less messy would be not saying what he said and announcing something when it was a thing (if it becomes one) later.

So you're saying their strategy is to simply never tell us anything at all until they absolutely have to? Despite being asked to do otherwise for almost 6 years?

Easier and less messy, yes.

Look what happens when they try to expand and do things, people get really upset over things that are really non information statements, and will likely be posted here too, just "not quick enough".

I am very serious in saying this seems like one of those real world examples of " this is why we cant have nice things".

Seems to me like it would have been significantly less messy to just come here and post that reverting SYG functionality required a title update and so they didn't know if it would be fixed in time, even though they previously said it would be fixed prior to next TB. Instead, here we are, two pages deep on a thread that wouldn't have existed if they had posted it here as well.

Two pages isn't messy. Two pages is like a small timeline divergence. It won't need pruned until it hits 8 or 10 pages. Much more than that and it's past the red line.

Sorry for the Loki reference on a star wars forum but the analogy fits.
DarkHelmet1138
4 years ago
"TVF;c-2275733" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275729" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275725" wrote:
Are you preparing differently because you don't know if it will be fixed?

We are. The strategy is different if gaining protection up works differently in that mission than it does in every other game mode.

Strategy is what you use in the battle.

I asked if you are preparing differently.

Tactics are what you use in the battle. Strategy includes planning for what you bring into battle. Ex whether or not to take a toon to r7 before the next tb or to allocate those resources elsewhere.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"TVF;c-2275750" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275748" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275747" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275746" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275743" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2275742" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275738" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2275734" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275733" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275729" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275725" wrote:
Are you preparing differently because you don't know if it will be fixed?

We are. The strategy is different if gaining protection up works differently in that mission than it does in every other game mode.

Strategy is what you use in the battle.

I asked if you are preparing differently.

Tactics are what you use in the battle. Strategy includes planning for what you bring into battle. Ex whether or not to take a toon to r7 before the next tb or to allocate those resources elsewhere.

Semantics aside, just wait until you have more information before using resources. That's what I do and I'm super happy :sunglasses:

That is often but not always an option. Depending on what the return or deadline may be for the next best option.

For example say you are considering taking fives from r5 to r7 for the kam mission because you barely lost last time. Let's say you could alternatively use those resources to boost another toon to r5 to round out a cpit team. If the event is fixed, you may decide that the cpit team is the way to go. If it's not fixed but they run it anyway, you may go with fives for the kam shard. If they delay, you may go with the cpit figuring you have time for more relic materials for the kam team.

If the cpit runs this week, waiting does potentially have the cost of not having the extra cpit team.

Just a made up example but definitely one at least a few people are going to face.

It's one cpit run. I don't see how that's worth a decision.

And that one run, or lack there of, could keep you out of the top 10, thus hurting your r8 grind.

If you didn't sweat the *potential* difference of 2 mats for a single run you'd be much happier, friend.

Oh, I don’t sweet it. I have plenty of those mats. ?

I was using the royal you.

I’m TVF’s King ya’ll!!

So Doja can say things publicly elsewhere but has to go through approval here for the exact same comment? Strange.
Nikoms565
4 years ago
Wait - so now I'm really confused. So the TB that start in 3 days is going to happen with the bug, but the next one will be swapped. Is that correct?
tvsfrink
4 years ago
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275786" wrote:
Soooooooooooooo.....CG broke their promise to us?

What promise?
Persimius
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
"TVF;c-2275793" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275790" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275785" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275781" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-2275780" wrote:
Wait - so now I'm really confused. So the TB that start in 3 days is going to happen with the bug, but the next one will be swapped. Is that correct?

As I understand it...

LSTB > TW > TW > TW > TW > DSTB > TW > TW > LSTB > TW > TW

Disagree. DSTB shouldn't move from end of month.

LSTB > TW/TW > DSTB > TW/TW > TW/TW (instead of LSTB) > LSTB (instead of TW/TW) > DSTB > TW/TW

Could be. Either way it gives them the same amount of time to revert the change. And probably makes more sense since the change affects LSTB and not DSTB.

I'm going off how they worded it.

Well, how they worded it is what I said. They were very generic, and just said they were swapping the order of the Territory Battles and the Territory Wars. They did not specific DS or LS. But, I think your way makes more sense.

"TVF;c-2275795" wrote:
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275786" wrote:
Soooooooooooooo.....CG broke their promise to us?

What promise?

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/246352/hotfix-06-17-2021#latest

NOTE: This will be fixed in an update prior to the next Light Side Geonosis Territory Battle.
Nikoms565
4 years ago
"StarSon;c-2275796" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275793" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275790" wrote:
"TVF;c-2275785" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275781" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-2275780" wrote:
Wait - so now I'm really confused. So the TB that start in 3 days is going to happen with the bug, but the next one will be swapped. Is that correct?

As I understand it...

LSTB > TW > TW > TW > TW > DSTB > TW > TW > LSTB > TW > TW

Disagree. DSTB shouldn't move from end of month.

LSTB > TW/TW > DSTB > TW/TW > TW/TW (instead of LSTB) > LSTB (instead of TW/TW) > DSTB > TW/TW

Could be. Either way it gives them the same amount of time to revert the change. And probably makes more sense since the change affects LSTB and not DSTB.

I'm going off how they worded it.

Well, how they worded it is what I said. They were very generic, and just said they were swapping the order of the Territory Battles and the Territory Wars. They did not specific DS or LS. But, I think your way makes more sense.

"TVF;c-2275795" wrote:
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275786" wrote:
Soooooooooooooo.....CG broke their promise to us?

What promise?

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/246352/hotfix-06-17-2021#latest

NOTE: This will be fixed in an update prior to the next Light Side Geonosis Territory Battle.

And that wasn't even posted on Discord....
InyakSolomon88
4 years ago
"Ultra;c-2275820" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275773" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275771" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275769" wrote:
Wow, look how MESSY this was!!!

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/246916/grand-arena-challenge-early-start-and-stand-your-ground-update#latest

You do realize this is actually what's happening, and not the non committal answer he gave on discord right?

Anyway, we have our answer to the op.

We have 1/2 the answer. No word on any compensation. I would love some KAM shards as I lost the battle last go round because of this issue.

No word on any compensation because there isn't any...

There should be.
DaarthBrewer
Seasoned Novice
4 years ago
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275837" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275820" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275773" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275771" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275769" wrote:
Wow, look how MESSY this was!!!

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/246916/grand-arena-challenge-early-start-and-stand-your-ground-update#latest

You do realize this is actually what's happening, and not the non committal answer he gave on discord right?

Anyway, we have our answer to the op.

We have 1/2 the answer. No word on any compensation. I would love some KAM shards as I lost the battle last go round because of this issue.

No word on any compensation because there isn't any...

There should be.

One of the hardest missions ingame bugged. Yes, there should be.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"Kyno;c-2275913" wrote:
"DaarthBrewer;c-2275864" wrote:
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275837" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275820" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275773" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275771" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275769" wrote:
Wow, look how MESSY this was!!!

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/246916/grand-arena-challenge-early-start-and-stand-your-ground-update#latest

You do realize this is actually what's happening, and not the non committal answer he gave on discord right?

Anyway, we have our answer to the op.

We have 1/2 the answer. No word on any compensation. I would love some KAM shards as I lost the battle last go round because of this issue.

No word on any compensation because there isn't any...

There should be.

One of the hardest missions ingame bugged. Yes, there should be.

The interesting part about this is that last time there was no change in the win rate, but they will monitor the data.

Shouldn’t the win rate steadily increase as time goes by? Every TB, more and more upgrades are made, so if the win rate is flat, that would indicate other factors are in play, perhaps a bug maybe.