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5 years ago

JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem

Just saw Bulldogs video where JML with tank tech under Bastilla lead will recover his bonus protection every turn, making him practically unkillable. SEEP cant even kill him on offense, since his Link doesnt affect bonus protection, and I doubt even his ultimate will give him enough dmg to get through a tanky Luke (his undispellable shock wont help either since it only prevents health recovery). That means that SEEP cant beat the guy hes pretty much designed to counter, while Kylo can 1v5 SEEP.

Cant imagine this is an intended interaction, and really hope they intend to fix this.

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Cant imagine this is an intended interaction, and really hope they intend to fix this.
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JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644569"},"body":"... is this even WAI? I mean I’ve never seen anyone use Wat under Bastila lead, but this doesn’t make sense to me.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"114","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T19:06:36.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T19:06:36.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644569","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:42603":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:42603","uid":42603,"login":"LQRDQFMQRDQR","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-12-02T17:17:36.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:42603"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644570":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644570","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644570":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:42603"},"id":"message:3644570","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644570,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644570"},"body":"
\"Kyno;c-2178885\" wrote:

I dont think the dev ever actually said that, did they?


Could you ask the devs that this Bastila + JML + Wat interaction is intended?
That it is OK that Protection Up buff gets regenerated by Protection Recovery. People would not want to invest in JML now only to later find out this is going to be changed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T19:42:48.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T19:42:48.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644570","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:10734":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:10734","uid":10734,"login":"NyKynoe","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-03-13T01:10:16.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:10734"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644571":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644571","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644571":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:10734"},"id":"message:3644571","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644571,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644571"},"body":"
\"str2019;c-2178918\" wrote:
\"Kyno;c-2178885\" wrote:

I dont think the dev ever actually said that, did they?


Could you ask the devs that this Bastila + JML + Wat interaction is intended?
That it is OK that Protection Up buff gets regenerated by Protection Recovery. People would not want to invest in JML now only to later find out this is going to be changed.


I already asked, just waiting for a response, or breakdown of what is happening.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T19:44:04.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T19:44:04.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644571","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:12":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:12","position":19,"name":"Legend","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:137754":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:137754","uid":137754,"login":"NotRealUltra","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-03-23T21:24:39.036Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1721239591000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:12"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:137754"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644572":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644572","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644572":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:137754"},"id":"message:3644572","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644572,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644572"},"body":"
\"TargetEadu;c-2178888\" wrote:
... is this even WAI? I mean I’ve never seen anyone use Wat under Bastila lead, but this doesn’t make sense to me.


Doesn’t mean it’s not WAI

there was no point using Wat with Bastila since we never had a Jedi toon before that had a massive health pool, who is also a tank until now

Protection recovery recovers protection added from protection up

Easiest test is Hoda will heal the 40% protection up from Padme unique on GK for example as part of his 20% protection recovery","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T20:02:23.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T20:02:23.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644572","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:220794":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:220794","uid":220794,"login":"blake085","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-02-05T22:38:27.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:220794"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644573":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644573","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644573":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:220794"},"id":"message:3644573","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644573,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644573"},"body":"
\"Sithlords_Inc;c-2178873\" wrote:
\"Blake085;c-2178822\" wrote:
Quit complaining, you just want the GL you own or you're chasing to be able to beat anything without a sweat


The problem is that this makes Luke the universally best GL without any second of a doubt. He beats every GL with ease and makes it extremely difficult for any of them to beat him. I dont have a problem with Kylo beating SEEP, hell I dont even have a big issue with him beating SEEP 1v5, because Kylo was supposed to struggle against Luke and SEEP was supposed to beat him. Already having Kylo, adding SEEP to my roster right now is going to feel pretty underwhelming: like unlocking Padme when you already got Malak during the Drevan meta.


This is nowhere near to be true.

JML is not unbeatable under Bastila lead. Also JML is not the best GL out there.

If you don't have a problem with Kylo 1v5 SEE or 2v5 Rey, then I don't understand why you have a problem with JML being an absolute strong tank under Bastila. JML needs a team to do that and the fact that he's being used as a brick wall instead of a leader tells everything, because apparently, the best team for him is the one where no one does anything beyond diying and Luke just stalls, right now, to me, he doesn't deserve to be called a GL.

Kylo got 2v5 by GS and a clone and everyone cried for a buff, now their toy can do the same and it's completely fine right? Same case with SEE, he can solo a couple of strong teams and no one is complaining. Now, you already said you're adding SEE, so you basically just want to have the so called \"best GL\" (proclaimed by who knows its face), it's cool if the toons you have can dominate, it's not cool if the toons you don't have are strong under certain circumstances, right?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T20:08:03.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T20:08:03.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644573","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:19605":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:19605","uid":19605,"login":"TheSithVicious","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2017-01-20T22:36:18.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1721239731000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:19605"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644574":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644574","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644574":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:19605"},"id":"message:3644574","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644574,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644574"},"body":"I need 2 or 3 more Wats","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"23","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T20:15:03.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T20:15:03.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644574","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644575":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644575","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644575":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:158663"},"id":"message:3644575","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644575,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644575"},"body":"
\"Blake085;c-2178946\" wrote:
\"Sithlords_Inc;c-2178873\" wrote:
\"Blake085;c-2178822\" wrote:
Quit complaining, you just want the GL you own or you're chasing to be able to beat anything without a sweat


The problem is that this makes Luke the universally best GL without any second of a doubt. He beats every GL with ease and makes it extremely difficult for any of them to beat him. I dont have a problem with Kylo beating SEEP, hell I dont even have a big issue with him beating SEEP 1v5, because Kylo was supposed to struggle against Luke and SEEP was supposed to beat him. Already having Kylo, adding SEEP to my roster right now is going to feel pretty underwhelming: like unlocking Padme when you already got Malak during the Drevan meta.


This is nowhere near to be true.

JML is not unbeatable under Bastila lead. Also JML is not the best GL out there.

If you don't have a problem with Kylo 1v5 SEE or 2v5 Rey, then I don't understand why you have a problem with JML being an absolute strong tank under Bastila. JML needs a team to do that and the fact that he's being used as a brick wall instead of a leader tells everything, because apparently, the best team for him is the one where no one does anything beyond diying and Luke just stalls, right now, to me, he doesn't deserve to be called a GL.

Kylo got 2v5 by GS and a clone and everyone cried for a buff, now their toy can do the same and it's completely fine right? Same case with SEE, he can solo a couple of strong teams and no one is complaining. Now, you already said you're adding SEE, so you basically just want to have the so called \"best GL\" (proclaimed by who knows its face), it's cool if the toons you have can dominate, it's not cool if the toons you don't have are strong under certain circumstances, right?


First of, you want to compare the 2v5 GAS team beating Kylo, a GL who was supposed to replace GAS as the meta, with a GL beating another GL or even a GL beating a 3 - 4 meta old team? Thats just silly. The 2v5 Kylo team only works against non - ult Reys. If the same goes for SEEP and he can beat this once he has ult then thats fine, but I just dont see that happening.

Could you please go into detail how Luke isnt the best GL right now out of a PvP perspective? Hes the only one who can cleanly beat every other GL and also holds well against them on defense.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-10-13T20:19:12.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T20:19:12.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644575","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644576":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644576","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644576":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:10734"},"id":"message:3644576","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644576,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644576"},"body":"
\"SithVicious;c-2178957\" wrote:
I need 2 or 3 more Wats



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\"SithVicious;c-2178957\" wrote:
I need 2 or 3 more Wats


And Thrawns ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"76","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-10-13T20:38:53.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-10-13T20:38:53.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:3644538/message:3644577","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:107323":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:107323","uid":107323,"login":"Player_tjsnk0t4","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-12-23T20:04:49.000Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:107323"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644578":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3644578","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3644578":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:107323"},"id":"message:3644578","revisionNum":1,"uid":3644578,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3644538"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3644538"},"subject":"Re: JML + Bastilla lead + Wat = problem","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3644578"},"body":"
\"Blake085;c-2178946\" wrote:
\"Sithlords_Inc;c-2178873\" wrote:
\"Blake085;c-2178822\" wrote:
Quit complaining, you just want the GL you own or you're chasing to be able to beat anything without a sweat


The problem is that this makes Luke the universally best GL without any second of a doubt. He beats every GL with ease and makes it extremely difficult for any of them to beat him. I dont have a problem with Kylo beating SEEP, hell I dont even have a big issue with him beating SEEP 1v5, because Kylo was supposed to struggle against Luke and SEEP was supposed to beat him. Already having Kylo, adding SEEP to my roster right now is going to feel pretty underwhelming: like unlocking Padme when you already got Malak during the Drevan meta.


This is nowhere near to be true.

JML is not unbeatable under Bastila lead. Also JML is not the best GL out there.

If you don't have a problem with Kylo 1v5 SEE or 2v5 Rey, then I don't understand why you have a problem with JML being an absolute strong tank under Bastila. JML needs a team to do that and the fact that he's being used as a brick wall instead of a leader tells everything, because apparently, the best team for him is the one where no one does anything beyond diying and Luke just stalls, right now, to me, he doesn't deserve to be called a GL.

Kylo got 2v5 by GS and a clone and everyone cried for a buff, now their toy can do the same and it's completely fine right? Same case with SEE, he can solo a couple of strong teams and no one is complaining. Now, you already said you're adding SEE, so you basically just want to have the so called \"best GL\" (proclaimed by who knows its face), it's cool if the toons you have can dominate, it's not cool if the toons you don't have are strong under certain circumstances, right?


SEE Soloing ex meta, non GL teams is fine. Kylo being 2v5'd with GAS and clone is not fine so it was fixed. Kylo soloing SEE 1v5 is not fine because it should at least take a full team of 5 but perhaps the ultimate may fix that? doubtful but its too early to tell.. SEE can't even beat Kylo, that needs to change too, it should be difficult per the rock paper scissors idea but it should be possible.
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