Why should getting into Kyber League (and getting the associated rewards, which are not being differentiated by division as we were originally told) be so much harder for division 1 and 2? If rewards are going to be the same across all divisions, points required to achieve each league should be the same across all divisions. Yes. That will mean that division 1 and 2 will achieve kyber league in MUCH greater percentages than other leagues due to innately getting more points due to setting more defenses and attacking more teams. That is fair though since they are managing more characters and teams. They SHOULD get better chances at the best set of rewards.I have more points than anyone in my guild by over 1400, but I am not in kyber league (going to miss it by 900, 1 win) while half a dozen people in lower leagues are in kyber league. In fact, there are people in kyber league with 6000 points less than me that are in kyber. That actually suggests ~4 rounds lost (since rank 1 d3 has 2000 points fewer than me and I'll assume that rank 1 person has not lost any rounds) and the ability to lose a 5th and still make kyber. I have only lost 2 rounds so far but it looks like I will lose this last round too for a total of 3 lost rounds which keeps me out of kyber. Those people in my guild in division 3 are going to get the best rewards while I have spent more time, and attacked more teams with less overall fail rates, and I am not in kyber league. Why?

"nabokovfan;c-1997244" wrote:Because you're winning battles, but you're not doing enough feats? What's your allycode?What is this college football.... You shouldn't need to go 100% with zero losses and full clears to be kyber that's crazy. If you have an above average win / loss ratio that should be enough with feats...Some people go freaking nuts on defense. That shouldn't penalize players because some butt head decided to set defenses that are absurd.

I just did the math for d3. Attack banners64*6 = 384Defense setting90*6 = 540Zone clears(180+150)*2 = 660Win1000Total 384 + 540 + 660 + 1000 = 258412*2464 = 31008Kyber for d3 is at 28500.Now if you go for 60 banner wins you get 360 instead of 384 putting you at 29280. Full clears with no feats in d3 gets you to kyber. Not only does that get you to kyber, but you can even lose 2 rounds and still get kyber easily without doing any feats.Full clears + wins and no feats for d2 and d1 do NOT get you to kyber. (The math is earlier in the thread, clears + wins nets 35424, kyber at 35500). Feats are REQUIRED for d1 and d2 to get to kyber...

I’m in Div 2 and just made Kyber. I’m going to be 10-2 (having lost this last match). I completed most but not all feats and still have 2 left to get (the arenas). Most players I play against go heavy on defense which is probably why most winning players are not making kyber.It’s tough to make it, but certainly not impossible. I do agree, however, that each division should be equivalent in making kyber.

"Corpus;c-1997420" wrote:"Kerrigan;c-1997409" wrote:Full clears + wins and no feats for d2 and d1 do NOT get you to kyber. (The math is earlier in the thread, clears + wins nets 35424, kyber at 35500). Feats are REQUIRED for d1 and d2 to get to kyber...If you are doing full clears and scoring 64 on each battle (or 60), you are also getting feats by default and therefore Kyber in Div 1, 2, or 3.and you get banned for cheating after that aswell ;)i mean it is obv that the higher your gp goes the lower the chances are you will end up in kyberin div 1 there are like 3 people out of the top 10 that are slightly above 5 m gpeveryone else is below 5 mits not hard to understand why no 6m gp whales end up in those top spotsand its not because they just throw money and have no idea how to play the gameso basically the high gp whales are getting a kick in the a s s for investing moneyonly fighting the same enemies over and over again where only mods make a difference because everyone has the teams maxed there are no lazy 63 points nest vs ewoks battles in that gp rangeso that combined with the way higher requirements for kyber compared to div 3 and below doesnt sound like the whole ranking system makes any senseand lets be honestgetting to kyber below div 2 isnt even something special

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greypoonda
6 years ago
I saw someone say that they are going to stick all their best teams on Def. to screw over others getting Kyber. I have thought about doing this as well..
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"grey_poonda;c-1998033" wrote:
I saw someone say that they are going to stick all their best teams on Def. to screw over others getting Kyber. I have thought about doing this as well..

Or you could try to win :shrug:
greypoonda
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1998035" wrote:
"grey_poonda;c-1998033" wrote:
I saw someone say that they are going to stick all their best teams on Def. to screw over others getting Kyber. I have thought about doing this as well..

Or you could try to win :shrug:

I do most of the time.. A majority of the time but not getting Kyber. I am going to do this for the next GAC run. Set the toughest defense as possible. That will be my fun to see if I can get full cleared.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"grey_poonda;c-1998043" wrote:
"TVF;c-1998035" wrote:
"grey_poonda;c-1998033" wrote:
I saw someone say that they are going to stick all their best teams on Def. to screw over others getting Kyber. I have thought about doing this as well..

Or you could try to win :shrug:

I do most of the time.. A majority of the time but not getting Kyber. I am going to do this for the next GAC run. Set the toughest defense as possible. That will be my fun to see if I can get full cleared.

That seems like a weird way to have fun, but that's your prerogative I suppose.
greypoonda
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1998044" wrote:
"grey_poonda;c-1998043" wrote:
"TVF;c-1998035" wrote:
"grey_poonda;c-1998033" wrote:
I saw someone say that they are going to stick all their best teams on Def. to screw over others getting Kyber. I have thought about doing this as well..

Or you could try to win :shrug:

I do most of the time.. A majority of the time but not getting Kyber. I am going to do this for the next GAC run. Set the toughest defense as possible. That will be my fun to see if I can get full cleared.

That seems like a weird way to have fun, but that's your prerogative I suppose.

I'll do it until they put 3 vs 3 / Fleets in GAC. Just bored and will find satisfaction in frustrating my opponents.
nabokovfan87
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1997547" wrote:
"nabokovfan;c-1997541" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1997522" wrote:
Loosing 3 rounds as an end game player should not reward you with promotion to Kyber league. Reaching Kyber league should be a sign of very good performance - not just above average performance.

Exactly. With relics, they need to add more divisions in the top end

With Relics? What's the connection here? Please explain.

Even if splitting the top divisions into 10 more, 3 losses should not reward you with a place in Khyber league. Yes, 9/12 wins is quite good, but nowhere near a top performance.

Because you have relics now.... the top end GP window is getting bigger and bigger. So you have some in division 1 and 2 that aren't as maxed out. SO, if you match based on certain parameters besides GP, it helps, but there's a lot that they don't consider. You need more divisions (every 1mil, or .5mil GP) and there shouldn't be such a gap between those at the high end. THIS is actually the OPs issue. You look at top X of a roster, but that isn't the whole story. Remember, they didn't even used to lock things up by division, they do now, for good reason.

You can drop a battle, but you need to get clears and wins the majority of the time you're competing in this ladder type system. If you drop too many, (more than 2) it's going to be really difficult to make kyber. You may narrowly miss out, but 1 point is enough to keep you out. A lot of people don't do undersized battles, that's another thing that isn't as easy in the top end competitions.
Waquira
6 years ago
"nabokovfan;c-1998064" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1997547" wrote:
"nabokovfan;c-1997541" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1997522" wrote:
Loosing 3 rounds as an end game player should not reward you with promotion to Kyber league. Reaching Kyber league should be a sign of very good performance - not just above average performance.

Exactly. With relics, they need to add more divisions in the top end

With Relics? What's the connection here? Please explain.

Even if splitting the top divisions into 10 more, 3 losses should not reward you with a place in Khyber league. Yes, 9/12 wins is quite good, but nowhere near a top performance.

Because you have relics now.... the top end GP window is getting bigger and bigger. So you have some in division 1 and 2 that aren't as maxed out. SO, if you match based on certain parameters besides GP, it helps, but there's a lot that they don't consider.

Wouldn't all those relic enhancers be equipped by the strongest characters, and hence included in the "relevant GP"?
Assume you have two players with identical rosters. Then one farms and equips a lot of relic enhancers, while the other doesn't. Those two players will probably never be matched after this.

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