Let’s take away the barriers to reporting cheaters

It's all just another unacceptable situation that most companies would take seriously. This player base has given them what? 1.5B+ USD in revenue? I've never seen a product generate that much with so little given back in return. My guess is they are running this game with a skeleton crew and just laugh at the players wanting more content, wanting playable content with less issues and wanting cheating taken seriously.

"GaCvet;c-2341468" wrote:

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2340909" wrote:

"GaCvet;c-2340820" wrote:

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2339763" wrote:
They said they did. It was pretty obvious they didn't, especially after a content creator tested the system by cheating dozens of times without getting caught.

You mean the content creator who was trying to hold CG hostage to get into the game changer program? Given his motives how is anyone to take his testing at face value?

What? I need more info on that front. We're both talking about Bulldog, right? I thought GC program was closed long before he ran his cheat detection experiment.

I don't have screenshots but bulldog's discord said he wanted into the GC program and he thought this would do it. We all know cheating exists, some guilds promote it but it doesn't need promotion and he was actively trying to leverage his video to get into the GC program. Ahnald has spoken to this, urzz has on several streams. I don't know anyone in game personally but that seems like a trait that would bleed into someone's real life. But he is on the forums and can speak for himself. He isn't someone to champion in my opinion but you do you.

The Game Changer program ended in June 2019. Bulldog was banned in August 2019. I don’t know enough about the entire situation to offer an informed opinion but the dates don’t match up with what you’re saying. Doesn’t make sense for the video to be used as leverage to try to get into a program that no longer existed

A system of manual review by devs on each case reported is only destined to (keep) fail(ing). You cannot ever keep up with the number of reports every day. There needs to be some filtering being done. Either by a detection algorithm or something else.

The most prominent ego shooter CSGO has a review system in place called 'overwatch'. When a player gets too many reports in one of his matches there's going to be a short video of the match and his gameplay being put up for review to the players. If the reviewers unanimously verdict that the suspect is cheating then he gets a ban. It's basically voluntary work from the reviewers as the little 'xp boost' they get from bans happening isn't much reward. The system isn't perfect by any means and one of the main flaws is that way too many low skilled ppl get the reviewer status (only high skilled players should be allowed to review cases) but a system like this could help the filtering process.

"PumaK;c-2341155" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2340954" wrote:
It's all just another unacceptable situation that most companies would take seriously. This player base has given them what? 1.5B+ USD in revenue? I've never seen a product generate that much with so little given back in return. My guess is they are running this game with a skeleton crew and just laugh at the players wanting more content, wanting playable content with less issues and wanting cheating taken seriously.

All That $$$$ ammount without a proper anticheat system enabled.

CoD Warzone has made over $4b over 3 years and JUST implemented some sort-of-effective anti cheat changes
So yeah , it's difficult to see how these devs/publishers don't even consider cheating in their games.

Maybe it's just too much work with little return on investment... I mean ppl played warzone and spent money the whole time, same as players here...there's very little incentive to devs toactually offer anything but lipservice regarding dealing with cheaters bc ppl will spend regardless

"GaCvet;c-2341468" wrote:

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2340909" wrote:

"GaCvet;c-2340820" wrote:

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2339763" wrote:
They said they did. It was pretty obvious they didn't, especially after a content creator tested the system by cheating dozens of times without getting caught.

You mean the content creator who was trying to hold CG hostage to get into the game changer program? Given his motives how is anyone to take his testing at face value?

What? I need more info on that front. We're both talking about Bulldog, right? I thought GC program was closed long before he ran his cheat detection experiment.

I don't have screenshots but bulldog's discord said he wanted into the GC program and he thought this would do it. We all know cheating exists, some guilds promote it but it doesn't need promotion and he was actively trying to leverage his video to get into the GC program. Ahnald has spoken to this, urzz has on several streams. I don't know anyone in game personally but that seems like a trait that would bleed into someone's real life. But he is on the forums and can speak for himself. He isn't someone to champion in my opinion but you do you.

I'm not sure where I was championing him. As Ferocious Panda pointed out, the dates don't line up nor would exposing CG's lack of cheating make any sense as a way to get into the GC program.

But that's not the point of this thread. The point, which I originally made, is that someone tested the system with obvious cheats and didn't get caught until after they made a YT video about it.

There's a way to report players in-game and it's very dumb to one day learn that it doesn't actually do anything. Nor can you submit reports to the EA database. No, you have to learn the correct method and send a DM on the forum to report cheating. Totally baffling. Why not just make the in-game function work?

A better explanation of the process might help? Something like "we get X reports a day and we try to act on reports within Y days/weeks". If I knew that the average investigation takes 90 days from report to action I wouldn't feel great about it but I'd feel better than I currently do.

The cheater that is the subject of this post has not been banned and won his first GAC match this round. I’m genuinely baffled that a cheater is allowed to run his way through kyber league after being reported via every vehicle provided.

Don’t turn them in for cheating, turn them in for being poor and not be able to purchase crystals.