Lord Vader is really under performing versus the cost. I cannot even kill a single character in a Kenobi squad. Squads with CAT and without CAT. LV is unable to bypass GK's taunt and it leaves the entire team throwing skittles at GK while Master Kenobi is running circles around them regaining health and protection. Please don't tell me the only way to be viable is with the conquest character being unlocked in a few months. That is very concerning to me and majorly unfair. I'm extremely disappointed. A Galactic Legend should not be dependent upon 1 character on the team to even be used. Please tell me I'm wrong. CG, Is there anything you can do to fix this?

Not every GL counters each other. It seems like JMK difficult to beat with Vader but you’ll have an easier time against other teams.I suppose it’s working as lore (and perhaps CG) intended. After all, Kenobi does have the high ground

I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT). I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early.

"Ultra;c-2298309" wrote:"Crayons;c-2298308" wrote:"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2298303" wrote:I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT). I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early. 4 relic 8’s you’d be expecting more. Underwhelming GL JMK was pretty underwhelming before CAT tooI have to disagree with that. I thought Kenobi was great day 1.

Yeah from what I’ve seen, he’s utter trash. Takes forever to ramp up his damage, takes forever to build up his ultimate (especially opposite GMK who builds it in a blink of an eye) and, if his team is dead, his ultimate is useless. Sure Maul might and probably will elevate him but what a trash concept. GMK was damn impressive from day one and just got better. LV is super underwhelming and needs a tune up even before Maul, just let him increase his damage a lot faster, tie it to DoTs if need be, at least give him that to work better with OG Vader.

"Ultra;c-2298309" wrote:"Crayons;c-2298308" wrote:"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2298303" wrote:I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT). I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early. 4 relic 8’s you’d be expecting more. Underwhelming GL JMK was pretty underwhelming before CAT tooWhat in god's name are you smoking. JMK was fantastic right off the bat, even without ult.

Lord Vader not viable without Maul?

Scruminator
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Not every GL counters each other. It seems like JMK difficult to beat with Vader but you’ll have an easier time against other teams.

I suppose it’s working as lore (and perhaps CG) intended. After all, Kenobi does have the high ground
CG_Doja_Fett
4 years ago
I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT).
I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early.
Clairv0yance
4 years ago
"Ultra;c-2298309" wrote:
"Crayons;c-2298308" wrote:
"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2298303" wrote:
I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT).
I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early.

4 relic 8’s you’d be expecting more.

Underwhelming GL

JMK was pretty underwhelming before CAT too

I have to disagree with that. I thought Kenobi was great day 1.
WattoisSnoke
4 years ago
Yeah from what I’ve seen, he’s utter trash. Takes forever to ramp up his damage, takes forever to build up his ultimate (especially opposite GMK who builds it in a blink of an eye) and, if his team is dead, his ultimate is useless. Sure Maul might and probably will elevate him but what a trash concept. GMK was damn impressive from day one and just got better. LV is super underwhelming and needs a tune up even before Maul, just let him increase his damage a lot faster, tie it to DoTs if need be, at least give him that to work better with OG Vader.
ZanirN7S
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
"Ultra;c-2298309" wrote:
"Crayons;c-2298308" wrote:
"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2298303" wrote:
I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT).
I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early.

4 relic 8’s you’d be expecting more.

Underwhelming GL

JMK was pretty underwhelming before CAT too

What in god's name are you smoking. JMK was fantastic right off the bat, even without ult.
winterwolves
New Scout
4 years ago
Someone in my shard unlocked Lord Vader a couple of days ago. He's gone back to using JMK.
WattoisSnoke
4 years ago
"Agent_P_82;c-2298379" wrote:
"WattoisSnoke;c-2298337" wrote:
Yeah from what I’ve seen, he’s utter trash. Takes forever to ramp up his damage, takes forever to build up his ultimate (especially opposite GMK who builds it in a blink of an eye) and, if his team is dead, his ultimate is useless. Sure Maul might and probably will elevate him but what a trash concept. GMK was **** impressive from day one and just got better. LV is super underwhelming and needs a tune up even before Maul, just let him increase his damage a lot faster, tie it to DoTs if need be, at least give him that to work better with OG Vader.

My experience is the same. Strange dichotomy of killing the team to build mastery, then needing the team back to use the ultimate. It was left useless at the time to trigger it.

It’s so stupid, Kenobi gives his team up to 200% mastery to his team yet Vader takes away from his team… or gives em nothing which I don’t mind but instead of relying on his team, why doesn’t Vader just gain his own mastery to reflect his selfishness and that of the Sith. So while Kenobi gives mastery to his team, Vader instead gives it to himself without giving or taking anything from his team and relying only on himself. Literally mirror the ultimates like (Kenobi - give mastery to team based on ultimate charge, doubled at 100%) (Vader - gives mastery to himself based on ultimate charge, doubled at 100%)
Rydereast
4 years ago
All GLs had a fairly good viability before ultimate. Well NOT LV. He just isn't worth it for 4 r8s and the entire team needed for him isn't even in the prerequisites. So really it's relicing up 4 more characters. Also not liking this 2 part GL stuff tied with conquest, especially since most won't get maul in 3 conquests
WattoisSnoke
4 years ago
I think a cool thing LV should have the entire battle is a permanent Marked built into his kit. Kind of a “dark” version of GAS having taunt and it would be a permanent debuff on himself. This would free up the need to have Piett since marking LV is his main use. That way you could have Maul as well as say ST, Storm and RG as tanks that LV could stack their Mastery on top of his own to become ever tankier. Then he’d just need a way to up his own damage quickly… although we don’t know how much Maul will give him stat wise, he may be enough.
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"Zanir;c-2298388" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2298309" wrote:
"Crayons;c-2298308" wrote:
"CG_Doja_Fett_MINI;c-2298303" wrote:
I've seen gameplay of LV squads defeating every other GL squad (except JMK/CAT).
I'm sure devs will keep an eye on things, but it's also still pretty early.

4 relic 8’s you’d be expecting more.

Underwhelming GL

JMK was pretty underwhelming before CAT too

What in god's name are you smoking. JMK was fantastic right off the bat, even without ult.

Did you read my follow-up post? People were complaining he was bad because of the many counters he had for his requirements