Can we, please, not get bosses in conquest that have 800 speed? Revan is literally faster than 540 speed gl rey. You literally can barely move and winning this battle fully rely on rng. Can we, please for fug sake, get actually decent team as opponents? We see you changed their stats in between first and second conquest but why you set them so high? This is not showing that the new character is any good, just shows that without ridiculously boosted stat they cant win. That is how you gonna advertise your new addition to the game, CG? I got to 1 ult and 1 saber throw and it did nothing, rest team(+140 ben solo btw and +155 cat) wasnt even able to move after first stun then another stun after jml got his ult and jkl had his cds off again. Im observing how CG is manipulating stats of units in specific game modes but it gets ridiciolus what are they doing. What is the goal of it? Enemies take 15 turns while your whole team is stunned and gl ult + saber throw(being one of the strongest single target dmg in the game) do nothing 🤡 dunno who is responsible for that but ig being smart is not your thing. Holy mother of stupidity, next conquest probably we gonna see new character with 100k offense and 2000 speed cause "it is balanced guys look"

AdhiMoiKo wrote:you act like it is "yea i just cant beat it with anything" kinda post which is completely not true and not the case here.maybe you should've worded your post better because it reads that wayanyways you are talking about the jmls boss fight in sector 5 right, watch this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2f96zTzws&t=4835s (also there's a reason conquest have the stat boosters consumables yknow, use that)

You dont get it, weird since you seem like a smart fella(based on your responses). It is not only about beating it, my inquisitors wrecked it so it is not the case. It is about doing feats. Normally you have a good points on this forum but this time you act like it is "yea i just cant beat it with anything" kinda post which is completely not true and not the case here. If i specifically mentioned gl rey, ben solo and cat any normal guy that has decent knowledge about this game would come to a conclusion that i might be talking about something more than just winning(getting feat with jtr done for example). Previous conquest it was atrocious but i got purple 100% tm disc so it wasnt big problem but it shows that without it this become rng fiesta. Really dude, i dont wanna change opinion abt you but this is rare L from you. You can do better and not try to present this post as some "crying that battle is unable to be done" while the truth is different.

When you put a clown emoji and scathing sarcasm in your post, I’m ill-inclined to see it as written in good faith.Nothing you put was about feats. You specifically put emphasis on “You literally can barely move and winning this battle fully rely on rng.” And the whole post followed a similar trend.I am not psychic, as cool as that would be. I say this without the intention of being a douche - if your point was about feats, it was poorly worded so from what I can see.To that end, I say - One boss node does not make or break red crate. There are feats you can absolutely afford to skip, and if you struggle so much to complete this one, leave it be and spare your sanity. Or hope you get good Datadisks/Boosters.

I guess i should be wording it more precisely since even advanced players cannot go to a conclusion when given specific information(gl rey, ben solo are somewhat intuitive for your thoughts to go to a place "maybe he is talking about specific scenario" but it seems not everyone has the ability to think about stuff on more than one "level"). Yea, looking at swgoh community overall i fully blame myself for not putting it there since we all know what kind of community this is. So that is on me, i agree after quick thought about it. Still. Creating abomination of the team that is suppose to highlight new character for old team by altering their stats to the moon is nowhere near logical solution. Lot of people may think "wow so strong team dude, they can beat anything" while in reality, after the dust will come off, we may see her being placed as "little bit stronger trench for jml" and it would be ridiciolus. Appereantly CG have no idea how to balance some stuff, a lot of different events or modes are proving it and somehow no one dares to talk about it. If winning some battle rely fully on rng then it is not challenge at any point of it. Everything is even more sad(and frightening at the same time) when you take into consideration fact that in first conquest from this conquest cycle that specific team was abnormally slow(jml was at half tm bar when my rey was at full and i had slower ray back then) and you could win battle without sweating even within first minute of it which leads to another fact that they changed strenght of that team to an absurd level. CG is taking L after L lately, this is amazing how bad you can be as game designers(and im not even talking about decisions in the "money" field) comparing to other companies. Sheesh, horrible job done in this conquest cycle, i hope guy/guys that is/are working on it do it voluntarily without payment cause otherwise it is even more sad.

AdhiMoiKo wrote:altering their stats to the moonit is true that in conquest, teams have very inflated stats. however, it is a deliberate design. as I have already told you, there are STAT BOOSTERS in conquest, so use it. there's speed boosters too you know that gives you +15% speed and +20 speed (or something like that) and if you use that are you sure you would encounter the same problems? there's also something called initial tether tech (which is not a stat booster but is a consumable nonetheless), which ability blocks the enemy for 2 turns, would you say the JMLS team will still run circles around you with that equipped? and unless you can't do any other feats to get the red crate, you can skip the RJT feat altogether

Misunderstanding what "challenge" is

18 Replies

OutrunWhistle2
Seasoned Scout
5 days ago
The call is coming from inside the house. SEE/Bane clears this easily, as do a lot of other teams if you only used the right ones instead of hopping on here to complain you can't solve a solvable issue.
AdhiMoiKo
New Vanguard
5 days ago
You dont get it, weird since you seem like a smart fella(based on your responses). It is not only about beating it, my inquisitors wrecked it so it is not the case. It is about doing feats. Normally you have a good points on this forum but this time you act like it is "yea i just cant beat it with anything" kinda post which is completely not true and not the case here. If i specifically mentioned gl rey, ben solo and cat any normal guy that has decent knowledge about this game would come to a conclusion that i might be talking about something more than just winning(getting feat with jtr done for example). Previous conquest it was atrocious but i got purple 100% tm disc so it wasnt big problem but it shows that without it this become rng fiesta. Really dude, i dont wanna change opinion abt you but this is rare L from you. You can do better and not try to present this post as some "crying that battle is unable to be done" while the truth is different.
GreenSunRedMoon
Seasoned Veteran
5 days ago
AdhiMoiKo wrote:
you act like it is "yea i just cant beat it with anything" kinda post which is completely not true and not the case here.
maybe you should've worded your post better because it reads that way
anyways you are talking about the jmls boss fight in sector 5 right, watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw2f96zTzws&t=4835s

(also there's a reason conquest have the stat boosters consumables yknow, use that)
OutrunWhistle2
Seasoned Scout
5 days ago
When you put a clown emoji and scathing sarcasm in your post, I’m ill-inclined to see it as written in good faith.
Nothing you put was about feats. You specifically put emphasis on “You literally can barely move and winning this battle fully rely on rng.” And the whole post followed a similar trend.
I am not psychic, as cool as that would be. I say this without the intention of being a douche - if your point was about feats, it was poorly worded so from what I can see.
To that end, I say - One boss node does not make or break red crate. There are feats you can absolutely afford to skip, and if you struggle so much to complete this one, leave it be and spare your sanity. Or hope you get good Datadisks/Boosters.
AdhiMoiKo
New Vanguard
5 days ago
I guess i should be wording it more precisely since even advanced players cannot go to a conclusion when given specific information(gl rey, ben solo are somewhat intuitive for your thoughts to go to a place "maybe he is talking about specific scenario" but it seems not everyone has the ability to think about stuff on more than one "level"). Yea, looking at swgoh community overall i fully blame myself for not putting it there since we all know what kind of community this is. So that is on me, i agree after quick thought about it.

Still.

Creating abomination of the team that is suppose to highlight new character for old team by altering their stats to the moon is nowhere near logical solution. Lot of people may think "wow so strong team dude, they can beat anything" while in reality, after the dust will come off, we may see her being placed as "little bit stronger trench for jml" and it would be ridiciolus. Appereantly CG have no idea how to balance some stuff, a lot of different events or modes are proving it and somehow no one dares to talk about it. If winning some battle rely fully on rng then it is not challenge at any point of it. Everything is even more sad(and frightening at the same time) when you take into consideration fact that in first conquest from this conquest cycle that specific team was abnormally slow(jml was at half tm bar when my rey was at full and i had slower ray back then) and you could win battle without sweating even within first minute of it which leads to another fact that they changed strenght of that team to an absurd level. CG is taking L after L lately, this is amazing how bad you can be as game designers(and im not even talking about decisions in the "money" field) comparing to other companies. Sheesh, horrible job done in this conquest cycle, i hope guy/guys that is/are working on it do it voluntarily without payment cause otherwise it is even more sad.
GreenSunRedMoon
Seasoned Veteran
4 days ago
AdhiMoiKo wrote:
altering their stats to the moon
it is true that in conquest, teams have very inflated stats. however, it is a deliberate design. as I have already told you, there are STAT BOOSTERS in conquest, so use it. there's speed boosters too you know that gives you +15% speed and +20 speed (or something like that) and if you use that are you sure you would encounter the same problems? there's also something called initial tether tech (which is not a stat booster but is a consumable nonetheless), which ability blocks the enemy for 2 turns, would you say the JMLS team will still run circles around you with that equipped? and unless you can't do any other feats to get the red crate, you can skip the RJT feat altogether
OutrunWhistle2
Seasoned Scout
4 days ago
AdhiMoiKo wrote:
Lot of people may think "wow so strong team dude, they can beat anything" while in reality, after the dust will come off, we may see her being placed as "little bit stronger trench for jml" and it would be ridiciolus. Appereantly CG have no idea how to balance some stuff, a lot of different events or modes are proving it and somehow no one dares to talk about it.
Most people with a functioning cranium will realise it's not an accurate representation of the character, but they will see her in action rather than reading a kit and connecting every little interaction in their heads. Of course it's inflated stats - that's how they make things 'hard'. Otherwise it's just a scripted squad arena. Show, don't tell. Even if the show is exaggerated.
You also seem to be contradicting yourself a little. You have said your point was about feats and not completing the boss itself. Yet this comment, too, seems more geared towards the enemies themselves rather than feat acquisition, so I'm a little...not confused, exactly, but blindsided.
MMN69Qc
New Scout
4 days ago
Well, It's like the game of sabacc between Han and Lando: Lando has the cards to win, but suddenly they're worthless and Han gets the MF.
When you see Thrawn (or an Ugnaught) clean a GL, you've seen it all ...
A GL becomes a Legend ("Once upon a time ...")
DarjeloSalas
Seasoned Ace
4 days ago
There’s an almost presidential feel to a thread where the OP decries other people’s smartness whilst simultaneously failing to use paragraphs and struggling to make the point they claim they are making.
Appereantly CG have no idea how to balance some stuff, a lot of different events or modes are proving it and somehow no one dares to talk about it.
Seriously? Do you even forum, bro?
harvestmouse1
Seasoned Ace
4 days ago
I keep saying it, but nobody listens or agrees with me...so I'll keep saying it! The bonus node on sector 5 has no business being the bonus node in sector 5! I cannot farm feats on it, and that's several Conquests in a row now.
As for the OP's complaint on speed...I guess they have a point. It does make for some odd/annoying battles. However, I'm fairly happy with the current balance. Other than the bonus node in sector 5!!!