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I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

"Woodroward;1009265" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1008843" wrote:

"WildMango;1008808" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1008798" wrote:

"Woodroward;1008129" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1008118" wrote:

Aurodium? Remember Those? Oh yeah, you don't because you've only been playing for 4 months.

So basically, you don't even know the history of the game and you're trying to act like you're some sort of, to borrow your term, "Know-it-all".

Oh you're right, none of the games previous releases are documented anywhere. Knowledge of that can't be seen anywhere... /end sarcasm.

The fact of the matter is. I can see how characters have been released since the start of the game without having been playing since the start of the game, but you can't see what leveling is like now unless you are leveling now.

Being a know-it-all means thinking that there is no relevant information you need to know about a subject outside of what you already know. I actually DO have knowledge of the game prior to my playing, but you DON'T have knowledge of leveling now.

Your comparison is inadequate. I am more than willing to admit when I am wrong, hence I am no Know-It-All. You, however, have proven over and over in this thread that you won't admit when you're wrong (while oozing holier than thou attitude from reply #1 to me), which leads to you being one.

In other words, your attempt at deflection (thinking error) has failed.

See, this is where you're wrong. I have an alt account that I've been leveling strictly f2p. I wouldn't call myself a whale by any means but I have paid on my main account. I'd consider myself a dolphin there. Maybe not even a dolphin.

But I will tell you this. My f2p alt account does everything you do, better, has a slightly better roster, And hasn't spent a dime. So yes, I know what leveling is like now.

You're just defending your position that you've spent so much money when veteran players are saying you're not a whale and saying your roster is weak.

It's okay to feel bad after getting terrible ROI. lol

Nice 17th place arena finish yesterday, champ. Lol

Why are you so intent on making this person feel bad about the way he/she spent their money?

I'm not. I called him out on his being a "whale/Kraken" when he's obviously not, and it devolved from there lol.

No, you spread lies about me. Were proved wrong. And refused to admit it, so have doubled down repeatedly. No matter how much you double down, you are still wrong.

Once you cross about $50/month you cross from being a guppy into a whale. Guppies buy here and there, Whales buy regularly. Krakens buy everything. I've had people call me a kraken, I didn't agree, but To say I am not a whale...


HAHAHA. step off with your ignorant trolling sir. You are wrong, You've been wrong from comment number one. You will remain wrong no matter how much you double down, and prolong this, you lost as soon as you sat down at the table.... because you're wrong.


I don't need the updates on my rank. Glad you like my account enough to track it. That is why I linked it in my signature after all. But go ahead, keep responding. Make a bigger fool of yourself. It only hurts you, not me.

$50 a month is not even close to whale territory in the least. Are you serious right now?

I haven't been proven wrong yet. At all.

You keep deflecting (horribly) but I haven't seen a legitimate argument from you that defends your position of being a "whale".

You even made a thread crying about hard node farming. This is the complete opposite of whale behavior. I don't consider myself a whale by any means but I had 0 issue refreshing some hard nodes to farm certain characters. That's what "whales" do. They don't come to the forums and make posts about how there should be extra hard mode nodes for certain toons so they don't have to spend crystals to refresh nodes. They just spend and refresh nodes.

None of us have arena tunnel vision. We just know how to build a proper roster that accomplishes everything that you're talking about, while being competitive in one of the more important aspects of the game. Arena is the only place in the game where you can earn a significant amount of crystals. It would make perfect sense that one would want to be hyper competitive there as well as all of the other aspects of the game. Again, you're deflecting by saying people have "arena tunnel vision", and claiming that your roster is superior in other areas, because you are horrible in arena for someone who has spent "thousands".

Also, this is your guild: https://swgoh.gg/g/12951/yingyang/

If you're even doing AAT (which I think is impossible with a 2 person guild LOL), it's not pretty hard to place first in a 2 person guild. Please just stop. I'm beginning to think you're a semi-functional autist.

It's not trolling if it's true.

You're showing your true colors here. Just admit you're a moderate spender and be done with it.

As an aside.. THIS is what a young whale account looks like: https://swgoh.gg/u/texrex/ and he started in February.

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their BS all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

While I think most people appreciate someone who values consistency and transparency, there is an old saying about choosing your battles in life. Personally, maybe it's due to age or experience, I've come to realize that mental energy is finite. And with that in mind, it seems more useful to expound that energy on things that might have greater bearing on one's life than a video game forum. Maybe if it's something that has to do with my family, friends or career .. sure.

I don't think people here on a video game forum are judging you one way or the other, and if they did it'd be only based on how you're reacting to whomever is engaging you. You mentioned that you don't care about being liked or even respected, but you care enough to defend what you view is the truth. While that may be an enviable trait, I can't help but see a contradiction in your statement and would simply encourage you not to waste your energy defending yourself constantly on a video game forum. It's not going to change what people think (pro or con) and I think that you're better off saving your energy towards building a good team in the game or fighting for the truth on a more relevant platform.

TLDR; it's a game and people on video game forums all have different opinions. Try not to stress about it.

"DeaconYaMouf;1009407" wrote:
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$50 a month is not even close to whale territory in the least. Are you serious right now?

I haven't been proven wrong yet. At all.

You keep deflecting (horribly) but I haven't seen a legitimate argument from you that defends your position of being a "whale".

You even made a thread crying about hard node farming. This is the complete opposite of whale behavior. I don't consider myself a whale by any means but I had 0 issue refreshing some hard nodes to farm certain characters. That's what "whales" do. They don't come to the forums and make posts about how there should be extra hard mode nodes for certain toons so they don't have to spend crystals to refresh nodes. They just spend and refresh nodes.

None of us have arena tunnel vision. We just know how to build a proper roster that accomplishes everything that you're talking about, while being competitive in one of the more important aspects of the game. Arena is the only place in the game where you can earn a significant amount of crystals. It would make perfect sense that one would want to be hyper competitive there as well as all of the other aspects of the game. Again, you're deflecting by saying people have "arena tunnel vision", and claiming that your roster is superior in other areas, because you are horrible in arena for someone who has spent "thousands".

Also, this is your guild: https://swgoh.gg/g/12951/yingyang/

If you're even doing AAT (which I think is impossible with a 2 person guild LOL), it's not pretty hard to place first in a 2 person guild. Please just stop. I'm beginning to think you're a semi-functional autist.

It's not trolling if it's true.

You're showing your true colors here. Just admit you're a moderate spender and be done with it.

As an aside.. THIS is what a young whale account looks like: https://swgoh.gg/u/texrex/ and he started in February.

You are insufferably wrong. I proved you wrong with my first response to you by pointing out my ewok scout. Simple math reveals that I am correct, as I detailed later in the thread, yet your "veteran experience" counts for more in your eyes. Guess what? It doesn't

I've proven you wrong over and over, yet you continue to rely on your own perception rather than actually crunching some numbers to verify any of your preposterous claims.

If anything you have said was true, it wouldn't be trolling, but that just isn't the case. So there's two option: either you are ignorant, or you are trolling. But you're lying, whether it is intentional or not.

A guppy is an irregular spender. A whale is a regular spender. If you spend more than $50/month you are spending regularly, so yes, the cutoff is $50/month if you spend MORE than that, you are a whale, period. Since you just won't leave me alone, I'll tell you that my average amount spent so far is $700/month. I am a freaking whale, even though neither you nor I would like that to be the case.

My thread was not crying. That's your territory. You started crying about my account as soon as you popped in this thread. I'm glad you're jealous of it. Glad you like it, but you can quit humping it already.

Yes, you do have arena tunnel vision. The thing you are basing your pulled out of thin air assumptions on is nothing other than arena.


I am a man of principle, unlike you. Just admit you're ignorant or a troll and be done with it.

"DeaconYaMouf;1009421" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their **** all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

I probably shouldn't even comment because I want no part of your back & forth, but if others in his guild aren't registered on swgohgg, then it makes sense that only two appear on there. I'm in the same situation with my guild.

"DeaconYaMouf;1009421" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their **** all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

If you call people on their shit all the time. Start calling yourself out because you are the one spreading bullshit right now. I have been trying to get my members to sign up for swgoh.gg but they don't want to do that. Of course, the fact that only 2 people signed up means that only 2 people are in the guild... Good job proving something!!!! /end sarcasm

You have no valid point! You have proved nothing! You CAN prove nothing! Because you are wrong!!!

Get over yourself, you ignorant troll!

"Woodroward;1009452" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009421" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their **** all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

If you call people on their **** all the time. Start calling yourself out because you are the one spreading **** right now. I have been trying to get my members to sign up for swgoh.gg but they don't want to do that. Of course, the fact that only 2 people signed up means that only 2 people are in the guild... Good job proving something!!!! /end sarcasm

You have no valid point! You have proved nothing! You CAN prove nothing! Because you are wrong!!!

Get over yourself, you ignorant troll!

So you mean to tell me that in your massive guild, only TWO of you have registered on swgoh.gg? I find that ridiculously hard to believe. It literally takes 2 seconds to do. You mean to tell me that non of your guildies have 2 seconds in their day to add themselves to something that would help them immensely?

I think what you're misunderstanding here is the LEVELS of spending. Guppies, dolphins, whales etc. are not based on how frequently you spend, but how MUCH you've spent. I think that's where our argument lies. I used to buy at least one vault a month, lately one every two months. I consider myself a moderate spender. I'm definitely not a whale by any means. I've spent a decent chunk of cash on this game, but nothing like those in the top of the collection scores on swgoh.gg

There's a whale/kraken on my shard who has spent in excess of 5 figures, but he doesn't spend anymore. Does that make him not a whale/kraken anymore? No, it doesn't. I'm pretty sure having 95% of all characters at 7 star g11 makes him a whale/kraken even though he has given up spending on the game currently.

As an aside, you haven't proven me wrong yet. You've deflected a lot, but not once have you proven me wrong.

You keep holding on to that Ewok Scout like its some sort of national treasure lol. Congrats. You farmed a hard node toon that drops like candy from Bronziums. Do you feel better now?

"DeaconYaMouf;1009483" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009452" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009421" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their **** all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

If you call people on their **** all the time. Start calling yourself out because you are the one spreading **** right now. I have been trying to get my members to sign up for swgoh.gg but they don't want to do that. Of course, the fact that only 2 people signed up means that only 2 people are in the guild... Good job proving something!!!! /end sarcasm

You have no valid point! You have proved nothing! You CAN prove nothing! Because you are wrong!!!

Get over yourself, you ignorant troll!

So you mean to tell me that in your massive guild, only TWO of you have registered on swgoh.gg? I find that ridiculously hard to believe. It literally takes 2 seconds to do. You mean to tell me that non of your guildies have 2 seconds in their day to add themselves to something that would help them immensely?

I think what you're misunderstanding here is the LEVELS of spending. Guppies, dolphins, whales etc. are not based on how frequently you spend, but how MUCH you've spent. I think that's where our argument lies. I used to buy at least one vault a month, lately one every two months. I consider myself a moderate spender. I'm definitely not a whale by any means. I've spent a decent chunk of cash on this game, but nothing like those in the top of the collection scores on swgoh.gg

There's a whale/kraken on my shard who has spent in excess of 5 figures, but he doesn't spend anymore. Does that make him not a whale/kraken anymore? No, it doesn't. I'm pretty sure having 95% of all characters at 7 star g11 makes him a whale/kraken even though he has given up spending on the game currently.

As an aside, you haven't proven me wrong yet. You've deflected a lot, but not once have you proven me wrong.

You keep holding on to that Ewok Scout like its some sort of national treasure lol. Congrats. You farmed a hard node toon that drops like candy from Bronziums. Do you feel better now?

Still relying on perceptions instead of math. Do you feel proud of your personally enforced ignorance? I'd have had to have had a full Ewok Scout drop out of bronziums either every day, or every other day to have actually gotten him 7 star in that amount of time, as I have stated earlier. Does that really seem likely to you? Do the math instead of talking out of your ass.

If you buy a vault or two a month, you are a whale, and you have spent way less than me all rolled up into one.

f2p characters could have 95% of all characters maxed out at g11 if they had started playing right at the beginning. Are they whales? No, they're not. Your roster has nothing to do with being a whale. That guy is a kraken because he spent in excess of 5 figures, not because of his roster. At this point in time, ANYONE who has spent in excess of $1000 is a whale.

You want to not call yourself a whale because you aren't happy with your roster? Well too bad, you still are one. I don't want to call myself a whale, but I will admit I am one, and I am rightfully proud of my roster.