Mod pack improvements missed the mark

"Woodroward;1009512" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009483" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009452" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009421" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009408" wrote:

"WompWompRat;1009400" wrote:
I think you're overthinking this. It's a video game.

This conversation has nothing to do with a video game anymore for me. It's all about honor. The fact that the subject matter in which honor has arisen is a video game is irrelevant.

I am an honest honorable man, and I will do the honest, honorable thing. The idea that we can act differently online than in person is a crock. Who we are is who we are whether we are behind a mask or not.

Are you going to address the fact that you're in a 2 person guild coming in first in your raids? Or are you going to keep deflecting?

I don't say anything online that I wouldn't say in person. I call people on their **** all of the time. It's one of my endearing qualities.

Just by linking the "guild" you're in, I shut down almost every single one of your arguments.

Please just stop.

If you call people on their **** all the time. Start calling yourself out because you are the one spreading **** right now. I have been trying to get my members to sign up for swgoh.gg but they don't want to do that. Of course, the fact that only 2 people signed up means that only 2 people are in the guild... Good job proving something!!!! /end sarcasm

You have no valid point! You have proved nothing! You CAN prove nothing! Because you are wrong!!!

Get over yourself, you ignorant troll!

So you mean to tell me that in your massive guild, only TWO of you have registered on swgoh.gg? I find that ridiculously hard to believe. It literally takes 2 seconds to do. You mean to tell me that non of your guildies have 2 seconds in their day to add themselves to something that would help them immensely?

I think what you're misunderstanding here is the LEVELS of spending. Guppies, dolphins, whales etc. are not based on how frequently you spend, but how MUCH you've spent. I think that's where our argument lies. I used to buy at least one vault a month, lately one every two months. I consider myself a moderate spender. I'm definitely not a whale by any means. I've spent a decent chunk of cash on this game, but nothing like those in the top of the collection scores on swgoh.gg

There's a whale/kraken on my shard who has spent in excess of 5 figures, but he doesn't spend anymore. Does that make him not a whale/kraken anymore? No, it doesn't. I'm pretty sure having 95% of all characters at 7 star g11 makes him a whale/kraken even though he has given up spending on the game currently.

As an aside, you haven't proven me wrong yet. You've deflected a lot, but not once have you proven me wrong.

You keep holding on to that Ewok Scout like its some sort of national treasure lol. Congrats. You farmed a hard node toon that drops like candy from Bronziums. Do you feel better now?

Still relying on perceptions instead of math. Do you feel proud of your personally enforced ignorance? I'd have had to have had a full Ewok Scout drop out of bronziums either every day, or every other day to have actually gotten him 7 star in that amount of time, as I have stated earlier. Does that really seem likely to you? Do the math instead of talking out of your ****.

If you buy a vault or two a month, you are a whale, and you have spent way less than me all rolled up into one.

f2p characters could have 95% of all characters maxed out at g11 if they had started playing right at the beginning. Are they whales? No, they're not. Your roster has nothing to do with being a whale. That guy is a kraken because he spent in excess of 5 figures, not because of his roster. At this point in time, ANYONE who has spent in excess of $1000 is a whale.

You want to not call yourself a whale because you aren't happy with your roster? Well too bad, you still are one. I don't want to call myself a whale, but I will admit I am one, and I am rightfully proud of my roster.

Why wouldn't I be happy with my roster? My average arena finish is top 3, I'm 5 raids away from 7 starring GK, I do well enough in ships that I have 4 toons Zeta'd, I complete GW every day and experiment with all sorts of ridiculous teams, credit heist/training droid heist is completed trivially, and I have completed every event while 3 starring the bonus levels. Well.. minus the separatist event because really who cares about ugnaught and ewoks.

I'm definitely NOT a whale. There are people in my guild that spend the equivalent of someone's mortgage payment every month. That's a whale.

If you spend a ton, it shows in your roster, hence your roster has a lot to do with being a whale. Do you think a moderate spender has a 7 star deathtrooper? Definitely not. Whales do.

I actually spent 20,000 ally points today and Ewok Scout dropped so much that I have enough shards to 7 star him and have some shards left over for shard shop currency.

There is no way that anyone who is strictly f2p would have 95% of all characters maxed out if they started at the beginning. Think of the character releases for a second. You mean to tell me that an f2p player, right now, would have Phoenix Squad, DT and Krennic, Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin, DN, Shoretrooper, all R1 toons, all clones, Tusken Shaman, hell.. even add Grievous, Zam Wessell, and Geo Spy to that list, unlocked let alone 7 starred and max gear? And you're talking to me about perceptions and math?

Just stop already lol. You're so quick to call someone ignorant when you know you're wrong. It's classic deflection.

"DeaconYaMouf;1009540" wrote:


Why wouldn't I be happy with my roster? My average arena finish is top 3, I'm 5 raids away from 7 starring GK, I do well enough in ships that I have 4 toons Zeta'd, I complete GW every day and experiment with all sorts of ridiculous teams, credit heist/training droid heist is completed trivially, and I have completed every event while 3 starring the bonus levels. Well.. minus the separatist event because really who cares about ugnaught and ewoks.

I'm definitely NOT a whale. There are people in my guild that spend the equivalent of someone's mortgage payment every month. That's a whale.

If you spend a ton, it shows in your roster, hence your roster has a lot to do with being a whale. Do you think a moderate spender has a 7 star deathtrooper? Definitely not. Whales do.

I actually spent 20,000 ally points today and Ewok Scout dropped so much that I have enough shards to 7 star him and have some shards left over for shard shop currency.

There is no way that anyone who is strictly f2p would have 95% of all characters maxed out if they started at the beginning. Think of the character releases for a second. You mean to tell me that an f2p player, right now, would have Phoenix Squad, DT and Krennic, Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin, DN, Shoretrooper, all R1 toons, all clones, Tusken Shaman, hell.. even add Grievous, Zam Wessell, and Geo Spy to that list, unlocked let alone 7 starred and max gear? And you're talking to me about perceptions and math?

Just stop already lol. You're so quick to call someone ignorant when you know you're wrong. It's classic deflection.

Even your bringing up deflection is deflection. I pointed out that you were doing it ages ago, so now you're trying to turn it around on me. Just stop already.

Do the math about Ewok Scout. Just do it. Please stop with your ignorance on this subject. You JUST 7 starred him on what? Your 6 month old account that you've been playing half again as long as my 4 month old account? What proof is that of anything? That's more of your non valid perceptions instead of actual math like what I have been using against you.

I am not placing my perceptions against yours, I am placing facts against your perceptions. This is why you have been proven wrong numerous times in this thread. Your failure to acknowledge this is why you are a know it all, and your paltry attempts at deflecting your thinking errors onto me haven't fooled anyone.


A guppy is an occasional, moderate spender. A whale is a regular, heavy spender. A kraken is someone who buys everything. If you spend over $50/month you are a whale. If you spend over $1000/month, you are a kraken. A little over a month ago I was a kraken, now I am just a whale.

Now please just stop. Your perception is faulty, your conclusions are flawed, and your points are pure conjecture. Either come back with some actual math to prove me wrong or admit defeat.

You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

I have given you the math. It's easy enough. If your ability to judge a young account is as good as you think it is, you don't need me to do it again. So you can either reread the thread to find it, or work it out yourself. One way or another, you will see that it backs up my claim. You 7 starred him on your main account... which is how old? You do realize that this, if anything, backs up my claim about not being able to have him 7 starred on my just barely 4 months old account?

"Woodroward;1009599" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

I have given you the math. It's easy enough. If your ability to judge a young account is as good as you think it is, you don't need me to do it again. So you can either reread the thread to find it, or work it out yourself. One way or another, you will see that it backs up my claim. You 7 starred him on your main account... which is how old? You do realize that this, if anything, backs up my claim about not being able to have him 7 starred on my just barely 4 months old account?

But I never actively farmed him, and you did. That's what you're failing to look at.

"DeaconYaMouf;1009603" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009599" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

I have given you the math. It's easy enough. If your ability to judge a young account is as good as you think it is, you don't need me to do it again. So you can either reread the thread to find it, or work it out yourself. One way or another, you will see that it backs up my claim. You 7 starred him on your main account... which is how old? You do realize that this, if anything, backs up my claim about not being able to have him 7 starred on my just barely 4 months old account?

But I never actively farmed him, and you did. That's what you're failing to look at.

Reread the thread. If you actually remembered any of our conversation you wouldn't be saying this.

"Woodroward;1009608" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009603" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009599" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

I have given you the math. It's easy enough. If your ability to judge a young account is as good as you think it is, you don't need me to do it again. So you can either reread the thread to find it, or work it out yourself. One way or another, you will see that it backs up my claim. You 7 starred him on your main account... which is how old? You do realize that this, if anything, backs up my claim about not being able to have him 7 starred on my just barely 4 months old account?

But I never actively farmed him, and you did. That's what you're failing to look at.

Reread the thread. If you actually remembered any of our conversation you wouldn't be saying this.

This was all I could find from your "math"

"I don't farm hard mode only characters, yet I have a 7 star ewok scout and clone sergeant, and you're going to say all of my 7 stars are easy to farm? I'll have been playing for 4 months on monday... Those are NOT easy farms."

Maybe I just don't understand what you're trying to say here, but you're saying you didn't farm Ewok Scout and 7 starred him in 4 months? That not only defies logic, but the laws of math lol.

Bravo on clone sergeant though.

Quick break from all the back and forth.

I just 6 starred FOTP today. Yay!

Now I have go get 98 more shards. Nooooooooooo

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"DeaconYaMouf;1009615" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009608" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009603" wrote:

"Woodroward;1009599" wrote:

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

"DeaconYaMouf;1009584" wrote:
You haven't posted any "math". Please do so.

All you talk about is Ewok Scout. Give me the math behind 7 starring Ewok Scout. You haven't yet. All you've said is "use math instead of perceptions." The onus is on YOU to prove me wrong. So far you haven't. Please show me where you used "actual math" because I see 0 breakdowns of your precious Ewok Scout farm.

I 7 starred him on my main account, which I linked earlier in this thread. That's without actively farming him, at all. If I wanted to farm him in the past, I would have hit his hard nodes and refreshed them. That, with the rate he drops from bronziums would have made him a relatively easy farm compared to a character like FOTP, which only has 2 hard nodes and 0 places he drops other than Chromiums.

You're still deflecting. Nothing I've posted in this thread concerning you has been refuted.

You just use the same three things over and over again. "Math, perception, ignorance" yet there is absolutely nothing you have said that refutes anything I have called you out on.

Guppy/Whale/Kraken are LEVELS of spending. You can not spend a single dime after spending a few thousand dollars and you're still a whale. What is so hard to understand about this? It's not the frequency, it's the amount. Then again, in your 25+ years of freemium gaming (lol) you may be getting Alzheimers in your old age. How long before you tell me to "get off your lawn!"

I have given you the math. It's easy enough. If your ability to judge a young account is as good as you think it is, you don't need me to do it again. So you can either reread the thread to find it, or work it out yourself. One way or another, you will see that it backs up my claim. You 7 starred him on your main account... which is how old? You do realize that this, if anything, backs up my claim about not being able to have him 7 starred on my just barely 4 months old account?

But I never actively farmed him, and you did. That's what you're failing to look at.

Reread the thread. If you actually remembered any of our conversation you wouldn't be saying this.

This was all I could find from your "math"

"I don't farm hard mode only characters, yet I have a 7 star ewok scout and clone sergeant, and you're going to say all of my 7 stars are easy to farm? I'll have been playing for 4 months on monday... Those are NOT easy farms."

Maybe I just don't understand what you're trying to say here, but you're saying you didn't farm Ewok Scout and 7 starred him in 4 months? That not only defies logic, but the laws of math lol.

Bravo on clone sergeant though.

I 7 starred him by buying Jawa & Ewok packs. Same with Clone Sergeant, and Droid and Clone packs.

Those packs I found worthwhile because they weren't as random so were guaranteed to give me shards for characters I wanted without being over the top in cost.

That's why it shows that I spent money. There's no way I could have done so without dropping hundreds on those packs.

I also bought a lot of First Order/Resistance packs.

"WompWompRat;1009629" wrote:
Quick break from all the back and forth.

I just 6 starred FOTP today. Yay!

Now I have go get 98 more shards. Nooooooooooo

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I finally started farming that bozo too. 17/100 :(