New TB no GET 1?

I think the problem just once again comes down to the fact that they don't play their game at a high level. "Strong squads" are not r5+.

Are you kidding me? My r4 Wampa routinely rampages through nasty squads by itself.

r5+ is not "meta".

r5+ is "strong".

You don't have to be the world champion power lifter in order to be strong. Feel free to criticize CG. I do it all the time. But recognize that you are going to undercut your own credibility if you can't admit that full 5xr5 squads are "strong".

"MasterSeedy;c-2392636" wrote:

I think the problem just once again comes down to the fact that they don't play their game at a high level. "Strong squads" are not r5+.

Are you kidding me? My r4 Wampa routinely rampages through nasty squads by itself.

r5+ is not "meta".

r5+ is "strong".

You don't have to be the world champion power lifter in order to be strong. Feel free to criticize CG. I do it all the time. But recognize that you are going to undercut your own credibility if you can't admit that full 5xr5 squads are "strong".

Considering veteran players can farm enough dc to equip every squad in GAC, there is strong case to say that R3 is now standard (almost expected) for this level of play.

"CaesarAM;c-2392347" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2392345" wrote:
If you are doing the new TB then your need for GET1 shouldn’t be as bad.

That’s not true at all. GET1 is for g12 left side, GET2 is for g12 right side.

Ehhhh……. There’s regular energy, fleet energy, and the shard shop for left side. I would prefer to still get some GET1 with the new TB, but also see why it may go away. If you’re at the point of doing the new TB, you have largely outgrown GET1. Like how if you’re doing Sith Raid you aren’t lamenting the loss of stun cuffs from your loot box.

It isn’t a perfect analogy, I know, because doing Sith doesn’t prevent you from doing Pit the way doing one TB prevents you from doing the other. But you get the idea.

Regular energy is Kyro and fleet energy is right side g12

"TVF;c-2392739" wrote:
Regular energy is Kyro and fleet energy is right side g12

Both of those can be bought with GET2, which we're still getting, and GACbucks--although, to be fair, we don't get enough of that.

People--not you, now I'm speaking in general here--like to say how this is a game of resource management and making choices, but then when choices are added to the game they get all grumpy...

Again, I would like to have GET1 in the new TB, too. I'm just saying this isn't that big of a deal. If you're in need of GET3 you're no longer in serious need of GET1.

"Lumiya;c-2392622" wrote:

"scuba;c-2392566" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2392564" wrote:

"scuba;c-2392563" wrote:

Without increasing the shard, kyro and G12 salvage income (again not saying this needs to be changed) you are not speeding the journey to r5 for me, an existing player.

Would you call your own experience typical of most players? Without seeing your roster, I get the feeling that you're probably an outlier in terms of roster progression.

Of players that have been here since the start of the game yes, I would.

There have been very few marquee units released in the last couple years that I couldn't take to the 7* required stopping point with in a few days, and the only thing that slowed that down was kyro.

See but this is the big difference. You are in the game since the beginning, an endgame player where as I am not even in the game for 2 years. Our experiences are very different. All the gear they are going to double will be absolutely needed for me and it will speed up my progression. If I don't have to spend currencies or energy for Carbantis and co, I can use that fully for other things like Kyros because until now I always have to also still farm and buy Kyros etc.

But.... Is this really going to speed up the journey to R5+?
Doubt it.
I am not saying that the doubling of drop rates is a bad thing, I am just saying they are blowing smoke saying for "experienced" players it is going to speed the journey to R5+, cause for many reasons it is not.

"NicWester;c-2392737" wrote:

"CaesarAM;c-2392347" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2392345" wrote:
If you are doing the new TB then your need for GET1 shouldn’t be as bad.

That’s not true at all. GET1 is for g12 left side, GET2 is for g12 right side.

Ehhhh……. There’s regular energy, fleet energy, and the shard shop for left side. I would prefer to still get some GET1 with the new TB, but also see why it may go away. If you’re at the point of doing the new TB, you have largely outgrown GET1. Like how if you’re doing Sith Raid you aren’t lamenting the loss of stun cuffs from your loot box.

It isn’t a perfect analogy, I know, because doing Sith doesn’t prevent you from doing Pit the way doing one TB prevents you from doing the other. But you get the idea.

That is where I disagree, I haven't outgrown GET1 as I use it regularly.

Taking you words,

There’s regular energy, fleet energy, and the shard shop for left side

Well same could be said for right side, fleet energy and shard shop, so get rid of GET2 also should be no need for either right?

Also GET1 is not just for left side, also left side purples and salvage for ID for relics.

Income streams should not be removed, reduced because something else is coming in? Moved to another source? Sure , but not removed.

Crystal for farming and GET1 are not equivalent.
To use fleet energy and/or regular energy to make up for loss of GET1 you are now taking away from the farming of the stuff on the right side and kyro, this is causing a reduction in the economy not keeping it neutral or improving it.

"NicWester;c-2392955" wrote:
Again, I would like to have GET1 in the new TB, too. I'm just saying this isn't that big of a deal. If you're in need of GET3 you're no longer in serious need of GET1.

I have to disagree here. Many guilds currently are a mixture of different sizes of players. I see it in my guild just for example and other guilds aswell. We have very old/big accounts, middle and we also always take in a certain amount of small players to help them grow.

To also give a different perspective, an account with 6M GP very well might still need GET 1 for Hoda, Wampa, GAS or Malak depending on where their focus was yet they might have exactly the right roster to be successful in certain parts of the new TB. To generalise guilds or accounts and their needs does not work.

Now we don't know how exactly the new TB is going to be or how difficult it will be or if it might even be gated by GM. But my guess is, that at least mid guilds will be able to participate, certainly not max it but still be able to solve a part of it, especially if they are a mixed guild and have big accounts that have Jabba etc.

To me it's different if I have to decide for myself where I am going to use my resources and what I am going to do, because I do not interfere with others' progression or impose a path on them with my choices opposed to a whole guild that has many different accounts on different levels, stages and needs.

100% agree with Lumiya.

And if the intention is for this to be a part of the future of the game, eventually most guilds will be running it - like Geo TBs today. It seems like an attempt to separate lower level guilds from higher ones, but there is a lack of detail about it that could be provided later to clarify/address this.