Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

I don't have a problem with the rework of zombie. The problem I have is that reworks are intended to make toons and teams more viable so we can decide if we want to invest in them or not. This is not a typical rework. I don't have the option to choose to invest in this "new" team, I already invested with the knowledge of how the team functioned. That functionality is now drastically changed.

The entire faction is now different than it was on release and initial rework from last year. With changes this substantial, I don't think it is unreasonable to offer a zeta refund for all NS toons. We should be the ones that decide if the changes are worth our investments or not.

Summary:
* They’re making the zombie worth at high gear only, and making sure to sneak a nerf or two while at it.
* HSTR P4 runs are gonna be much much less, now that you can’t push bonds high without getting your zombie stuck at -100% speed (ie never taunting). Same thing they tried to do with limiting bonds to 20 earlier.
* HSTR P3 runs are gonna be next to impossible to set up, now with zombie taking MT/Spirit/Initiate’s deaths.

Sneaky clever move CG ;-)

"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:

"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?

by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:

Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp

"swgohfan29;c-1653678" wrote:

"Vice_torn;c-1653673" wrote:
OK so.. Have devs thought of anyone doing the following...

After zombie has - 100speed. Use Thrawn to swap tm with zombie, and activate unbreakable will. Zombie would have 0 speed and be unkillable and the target of all attacks...

Yes they did. and they answered. The short answer is that won't happen. If you want the long answer its somewhere in this pile of comments

Ya I did see something about somewhere.... the excuss is that zombie will not move because it has 0 speed. BUT as I said you can feed zombie tm.

I find it nearly impossible to understand the mechanics fully, but does this mean that maybe a part 1 Thrawn (L), magma, Daka, DT (or even Acolyte I guess), Zombie run would work. I mean if Zombie gets the shield and -100 speed then you can just sit there and machine gun with Magma.

@CG_TopHat I think that giving health through Feed is a wasted opportunity. There are plenty of health up options on the NS team. Having it give back protection would have been nice.

"Vice_torn;c-1653726" wrote:

"swgohfan29;c-1653678" wrote:

"Vice_torn;c-1653673" wrote:
OK so.. Have devs thought of anyone doing the following...

After zombie has - 100speed. Use Thrawn to swap tm with zombie, and activate unbreakable will. Zombie would have 0 speed and be unkillable and the target of all attacks...

Yes they did. and they answered. The short answer is that won't happen. If you want the long answer its somewhere in this pile of comments

Ya I did see something about somewhere.... the excuss is that zombie will not move because it has 0 speed. BUT as I said you can feed zombie tm.

It's in the game mechanics that if a toon has 0 speed, they will never take a turn. The dev post about this was somewhere in the comments, but if you need proof, just look at what happens when you Thrawn TM swap a fractured toon.

Since the launch of sith raids you guys have been changing our investments almost every other month. St Han,resistance,NS. I’m so curious on how you did any testing of this raid before launch.
Something you guys should have been playing for a long time before launching and in no time we discovered all the ways to beat your raid and in doing so you’ve been struggling to plug holes ever since.
Please before you launch a ship raid please please please test it fully. You start nerfing ships and I’m asking iTunes for a full refund. I can’t stand all these nerfs to things I’ve spend real money on. Every nerf is a slap in the face of your fans time and money invested.

I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...

"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:

"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:

"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?

by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:

Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp

NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.

"SinisterSandman;c-1653736" wrote:
I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...

What we didn't know was that it would end up effectively as a nerf.