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"SinisterSandman;c-1653736" wrote:
I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...
Two fold.
One: Cause if we complained back in July people would have been called “haters” without having seen the changes.
Two: cause they stuck a Nerf inside the “fix” and no one could have anticipated a change to MT’s leadership."SinisterSandman;c-1653736" wrote:
I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...
We knew they were making a change to zombie but didn’t express what the change would be. The outrage would have been heard for the past two months if we knew about these changes then as they have made the entire faction and investment into them nullified in one move."Chewy88;c-1653742" wrote:
"SinisterSandman;c-1653736" wrote:
I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...
We knew they were making a change to zombie but didn’t express what the change would be. The outrage would have been heard for the past two months if we knew about these changes then as they have made the entire faction and investment into them nullified in one move.
bit of an overstatement, you haven't used them yet"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple. Just because it keeps them the same in one part of the game being negatively effected I. The rest of the game qualifies it as a NERF and really one of the most pervasive nerfs the game has seen thus far."Chewy88;c-1653746" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple.
I disagree, I think they will be a harder team to deal with in TW. I think they will be better in DSTB. I'm sure someone will figure out how to use MT/Zombie in Arena.- Why are there so many people defending the ns cheese?
Tbh, i think the only people who are defending it are people with bad rosters who were cheesing their way to the top of hstr.
Most people who understand the game mechanics are loving this update, and absolutely hate the p3 team. (So much so that they have vowed to never use that cheesy team).
I'll say it again, great work CG. Love the update. I have all the resources for the cheese p3 team, but will never use it. Ever. "yohann269;c-1653747" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653746" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653739" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1653724" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1653716" wrote:
"Artery;c-1653714" wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong please but if ‘paper zombie teams will be unable to solo Nihilus in p4 of the HST’, how will ‘scores improve in p4’?
by gearing up Zombie of course :wink:
Nope they won’t improve. If you did good with a paper zombie you’ll do as good or (most likely) a lot worse. Expect your damage to be cut in half due to this and for the ns to still be useless in pvp
NS are not useless in PVP, they are great in TW and this update makes them tougher, on either Offense or Defense. It seems like most people commenting on this thread completely forget about all the other game modes that you can use NS. With this change the "zombie death cycle" in DSTB most likely won't happen. As with every other change we will need to learn and adapt to new strategies.
Ok I’m sorry they’ll maintain their usefulness in tw but will not have viability in arena. And they won’t be any better in tw than they were before. This is a nerf plain and simple.
I disagree, I think they will be a harder team to deal with in TW. I think they will be better in DSTB. I'm sure someone will figure out how to use MT/Zombie in Arena.
You can use them effectively in all these areas as is though so why say it changes them for the better. This isn’t an improvement in any of these areas it’s is either status quo or a dramatic downgrade. I can three star all of dstb with my current ns team and I get at least 2 defenses every time in tw. How is this mechanic and nerf going to improve that? Answer it won’t. It’ll make them worse.- Quick note: We're not here to talk about agendas, SJWs, politics, or anything of that nature. I've removed a post for this reason.
"Kiritoismyname;c-1653750" wrote:
Why are there so many people defending the ns cheese?
Tbh, i think the only people who are defending it are people with bad rosters who were cheesing their way to the top of hstr.
Most people who understand the game mechanics are loving this update, and absolutely hate the p3 team. (So much so that they have vowed to never use that cheesy team).
I'll say it again, great work CG. Love the update. I have all the resources for the cheese p3 team, but will never use it. Ever.
I agree with everything you said. This is a big Buff to the NS team, not a nerf. The P3 team was a cheap gimmick to begin with. Scores in P4 will be the same if not higher. Brings NS back into the Meta in arena. Good luck dealing with this team in TW. Imperial Troopers no longer wipes them out.- Here's the basic gist of the changes you will experience if you bump Zombie up to G10 for unlimited revives:
Sith Raid P3: Your scores will be more consistent, but with an added hurdle of some initial setup RNG. Which means an easier setup because your max score has more to do with the beginning of your run than the end of your run. So restarts will be clear right from the start. And by consistent I mean that your scores will be more based on how fast you can burn through the revives and start the train than it will be dependent on how lucky you get after Enrage hits. So, a lower score threshold, but more attached to playing and modding well than just hoping for good RNG throughout the run.
Sith Raid P4: Your scores should go up because a well-geared Zombie produced more consistent successes in this phase anyway. With the new revive mechanic and an additional source of team healing to fight the Bonds of Weakness and potentially activate Ventress leadership more, I see potential.
I use Nightsisters as my main teams for P3 and P4 of the Sith Raid (though I like using them for P4 more). I'm willing to give this a try because it just means going back to the drawing board and figuring out what ways to adapt my current strategy and achieve something better.
