Hello. There seems to be some character sets that are very overpowered when all of the characters are combined into one unit. The Nightsister set is the best example. The set which includes Old Daka, Mother Talzin, Asajj Ventress, Talia, and a Nightsister Zombie, becomes impossible to defeat at a certain point. The zombie ressurects repeatedly, and locks all attacks onto it, making it impossible to attack any of the other characters. Even with attacks that damage all, they are able to heal each other.The other set which proves to be too difficult or impossible to defeat would be the Phoenix set (Ezra Bridger, Chopper, Sabine Wren, Hera Syndulla, Garazeb "Zeb" Orellios, Kannan Jarrus). They buff each other and give each other bonus attacks to the point that they absolutely destroy any competition.These two character sets remove any kind of challenge for the person using them, and removes any fun for the competitor going up against them. Since these sets are so overpowered, many users have them, which makes the Galactic War an almost impossible challenge to complete, and the Squad Arena a boring chore.I understand how having character sets that give bonuses are a fun dimension of the game. But these afforementioned sets are overpowered, and the fun of creating a customized squad of various characters becomes redundant. I, personally do not want to get these sets for myself, because I want to enjoy the game, instead of cheesing my way through it with overpowered character sets like so many others. If someone could look into it and find a solution, that would be splendid.Thanks for reading.

"freshprince19888;c-1514150" wrote:Do not use lando vs. phoenix. Lando is GREAT against phoenix. Just do one of two things (or both)1. Kill Kanan before using Lando AoE, so no counter2. Taunt with STH and watch all those counter-attacks morph inti insane TM for your team.DPS teams that DO NOT DEBUFF will crush Phoenix.

The two teams you mention are what make swgoh great. individually those toons are nothing special a few are good but nothing great in other teams. what they have is synergy, its great.they both also have specific counters and strategies that can just make them crumble. do a quick search in the strategy section and you can cut them down quick.

try searching for a way to beat them, none have said you need some kinda OP squad to beat them, however, you need the right tools for the job, and for NS, AOE attacks are key, your squad is literally useless because it is single target attackers, except for JKA, that's not good enough cuz he doesn't hit that hard, try getting some of the other easily farmable AOE attackers built up and you will laugh at how simple it is to beat NS

That... is a terrible team.Jedi are, unfortunately, one of the weakest themes in the game. Mace is generally regarded as one of the worst toons in the game, which while hyperbole is not far off. Jedi Consular is pretty useless on any serious team. Ahsoka is only moderately functional with Anakin synergy, and even then, not much. Anakin himself, while one of the few Jedi who can hit worth a damn, is also pretty mediocre.A Jedi rework is necessary at some point. We haven't gotten word on when or if it will happen. And most of the genuinely good Jedi don't really work well together.In a game where the characters are meaningfully distinct in an interesting way that shifts as content is added is, there will always be teams that work better or worse and characters that don't really have a place at any given time.Now. If you really want to run a Jedi team, I suggest you start with Qui Gon Jin. Once he has his zeta, he has one of the few leadership abilities that can bring the team together, granting a solid speed boost to everyone on the team, an offense boost based on speed (which you always want to mod high), and foresight to all Jedi at the start of the encounter and every time a Jedi dies. So, in one fell swoop, it grants your team a substantial boost to speed, striking power, and survivability. Also, Qui Gon himself is a generally solid unit, and one of the few Jedi who can hit well. His basic has double-edged turn meter manipulation, and using his Harmonious Assault to call Ezra to assist at +75% damage turns him into a sledgehammer. Also, he gives you a buff cleanse that grants your entire team offense up.You need a real tank. Mace, despite being tagged a tank, is not a real tank. In fact, the Jedi have a bunch of tanks who aren't really tanks. Practically, you have three options. First? General Kenobi. He is the best Jedi tank. He's also probably way out of reach, as the tank raid character. Second? Kanan Jarrus. He works. His offense down inflicting counter attack and heal-on-debuff and minor cleanse are nice. If you have him set up, you can slot him in now. Third? Obi Wan. He's the one I recommend. He hits like a wet noodle, but he's tough, his mind trick renders entire enemy teams impotent and gives all your Jedi turn meter if resisted, if he goes down first your entire team turns into a bunch of superheroes, and if you Devoted Protector zeta, when his taunt gets dispelled, as is the fate of tanks, it comes back for a round, making him much harder to bypass.Ezra stays. He's the hardest-hitting Jedi. Calling Qui Gon to assist wrecks things, and since Qui Gon is a Support rather than an attacker it grants them both turn meter, which is his best assist effect. In a pinch, he can give Ben 40% protection back by calling him to assist instead. His Flourish is a second buff removal option, but you'd rather use it against non-buffed targets for that big turn meter gain and high damage.Grandmaster Yoda. Generally regarded as the worst legendary, GM Yoda is also the fastest. Qui Gon's zeta turns speed into offense. That makes Yoda hit surprisingly hard. His Battle Meditation protects your party from dangerous Sith debuffs. His buff manipulation does crazy shenanigans.Last slot? You want a good healer. Either Barriss or Hermit Yoda. But until you can get them, Anakin for more offense is usable.Barriss is easier to get, and her zeta is a very potent sustain.Hermit Yoda is a pain in the butt to get, but can turn your tank into a nigh immortal and Ezra into a devastating monster of a hitter. Qui Gon calling an Ezra with Master's Training and Offense Up on him with that +75% damage Harmonious Assault can cut through damn near anything.The result, while not the best team, is a reasonably accessible Jedi team that can at least give a fair run against the Sith heavy meta. But you really need that zeta on Qui Gon's leadership ability to bring it together.

I prefer faction synergy to cookie cutter teams

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Waquira
7 years ago
"Lord_of_Hordes;c-1514279" wrote:

Earlier, I could not defeat a Nightsister/zombie squad that were all lvl 68, and the player lvl was 73. I've gotten to where I don't even bother trying to fight a Phoenix squad, because it is pointless. Those two squads are overpowered. It makes the game less fun.

It seems like the game would be better if everyone could create a custom squad of characters they like and invest in it, instead of everyone HAVING to get the same overpowered squads in order to do well.

As stated previously:

Those two squads are not at all overpowered. You are simply fighting them with an extremely weak team. It's weak in general and extremely weak against those two teams.

Everybody can create a custom squad of characters they like and play them. Everyone! They can't expect to win, but that's a completely different issue. If you enjoy the game playing your jedi, then by all means stick to your jedi squad. If you enjoy it more by winning, then either switch to another faction or at least build a strong jedi team. You're almost level 80. Where's your jedi leader (QGJ)? As a bare minimum you should get him for your jedi squad. At least, you're in luck, since the GM Yoda legendary event will return later this month. Make sure that you have 5 jedi ready at 7* when that happens.
RedDevils_Man
7 years ago
The game is designed in such a way as to promote u to work towards getting all toons/teams.
There is no one single god team which will crush all.
If u have not rounded up atleast a dozen toons by now.
Its honestly ur fault.
I too started with jedi.thinking they were awesome..but fell flat.
Now i am nearly in line with current meta and stay in 400s to 300s in arena (7 months here)
However if ur playing for fun using just a specific team..then pls try all the combo that u can
Lord_of_Hordes
7 years ago
Thanks everyone. I will try some of the suggestions here.
ElderCaveat
7 years ago
The last territory war was stopped by one team of ns in the first stage, they had 40 wins. I killed off 2 ns teams using another ns team and a team with lando. This team killed off my 100k+ cls lead arena team, the ns power is 82k. My arena team took months and months of farming. Their team was practically given to them. I have been in this guild almost 2 years and we just started to succeed in haat about 2 months ago. Half the guild is around 1.5M power. We are not power players, just casual, probably only won 3-4 tw.

Here is a pic of them. Hoping it works.

https://ibb.co/dS9aXH
tuftedpaper85
7 years ago
I mean not a fan of cookie cutter teams that revolve around a faction. It ruins creativity. I refuse to run a team where all five members are the same faction

They need to buff leader abilities that grant bonuses to all allies, since the only good one right now is Rex
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"Tuftedpaper85;c-1515485" wrote:
I mean not a fan of cookie cutter teams that revolve around a faction. It ruins creativity. I refuse to run a team where all five members are the same faction

They need to buff leader abilities that grant bonuses to all allies, since the only good one right now is Rex

You choose to make your life more difficult and then expect the devs to "fix" it for you?

Sorry, no.
Qeldr0ma
7 years ago
"Tuftedpaper85;c-1515485" wrote:
I mean not a fan of cookie cutter teams that revolve around a faction. It ruins creativity. I refuse to run a team where all five members are the same faction

Ok... one could also argue that’s one of the points of the game
tuftedpaper85
7 years ago
"TVF;c-1515514" wrote:
"Tuftedpaper85;c-1515485" wrote:
I mean not a fan of cookie cutter teams that revolve around a faction. It ruins creativity. I refuse to run a team where all five members are the same faction

They need to buff leader abilities that grant bonuses to all allies, since the only good one right now is Rex

You choose to make your life more difficult and then expect the devs to "fix" it for you?

Sorry, no.

No, I'm saying the game is more fun when there are more options for how to build competitive teams
Nikoms565
7 years ago
"Kyno;c-1514213" wrote:
The two teams you mention are what make swgoh great. individually those toons are nothing special a few are good but nothing great in other teams. what they have is synergy, its great.

they both also have specific counters and strategies that can just make them crumble. do a quick search in the strategy section and you can cut them down quick.

Exactly this. Honestly, I wish the devs used these two factions as blue prints - almost all of them are great synergistically within their faction, but not so powerful that they are plug-and-play in other teams (like GK, Raid Han, etc.)
BlueRoseBlade
7 years ago
"Tuftedpaper85;c-1515485" wrote:
I mean not a fan of cookie cutter teams that revolve around a faction. It ruins creativity. I refuse to run a team where all five members are the same faction

They need to buff leader abilities that grant bonuses to all allies, since the only good one right now is Rex

Mono-faction teams are too cookie cutter because they're handed to you, so you want them to hand you a mixed faction leadership ability?

Faction synergies are a large part of what makes different units viable. That a CLS or Ackbar lead bolsters Rebels makes a variety of Rebel units more attractive. That Palpatine bolsters Sith and Empire makes a variety of Sith and Rebel units more attractive.

If you take that out, you end up in a situation where titans are the only thing worth running, which is already rather a problem. It just becomes questions like, "Who is best tank?" Plug in General Kenobi. "I need some control." Plug Thrawn or Raid Han. And so on. You go from a couple dozen viable characters to much more monotone teams.

Looking at my own shard's leaderboards, not a lot of it is mono-faction. The Rebel teams tend to have Thrawn and/or General Kenobi. The Palpatine teams are dual-faction. The Rey teams tend to have two out-of-faction characters.