Punished for thinking outside the box??

"SherveenEvergreen;c-1942350" wrote:
OP doesn't follow best practice and wonders why he isn't good. . . . Srsly man.

You should re-read what I said and not be so arrogant or naive. I said "others like me".... thus I was not speaking just for myself. Presently, I'm ranked 10 in ships in my shard without HMF. I never said I was good or bad.... you failed to grasp the point of my post, which is how reliant ships are with one faction, which makes it really hard to get into.

97% of all top 10 ship squads, in the entire game, feature one or both HT or HMF, and 95% feature both.....
https://swgoh.gg/stats/fleet-meta-report/#squads

Try not to be a troll, and read for deeper meaning.

"joelgs23;c-1942932" wrote:

"SherveenEvergreen;c-1942350" wrote:
OP doesn't follow best practice and wonders why he isn't good. . . . Srsly man.

You should re-read what I said and not be so arrogant or naive. I said "others like me".... thus I was not speaking just for myself. Presently, I'm ranked 10 in ships in my shard without HMF. I never said I was good or bad.... you failed to grasp the point of my post, which is how reliant ships are with one faction, which makes it really hard to get into.

97% of all top 10 ship squads, in the entire game, feature one or both HT or HMF, and 95% feature both.....
https://swgoh.gg/stats/fleet-meta-report/#squads

Try not to be a troll, and read for deeper meaning.

It’s all about money.

"KausDebonair;c-1942276" wrote:
Translation: I don’t have the best things so everybody else’s things should be made worse.

This game isn’t built on participation trophies.

Your statement would be correct if they did something with ships besides an assault battle, quick TB battles that are autolosses even with G17 ships, a new capital locked behind a 15 month farm (yeah we get the wallet warriors probably have him unlock already) talking about majority of game here...

And another new capital coming no one knows how it will be released prob another 15 month farm or hopefully a legendary that we can get in 5 months second time around...

does that sound like a lot.... not after 2.5 years. sorry... OP may be mad he dont' have the best things so everyone should get it worse....

But dear lord ships is meh right now... the big solution was to release 2 big capitals (we all wanted BTW) which is good...but the transition from ships being a F2P heaven to instant JKR and DR ship meta is scary.

New ships have been released to people who most likey already have the pilots at G12+ so people who have invested everything into ships have to deal with people who are just given handout fleets (which may or not be good, it's good if it get's people involved in ships and leads to better things... it's not good if it's just a handout to the god players who ignored ships for 2 years

whatever... in the end if WHATEVER they decide to do with ships if it leads to more people playing, spending, and leading to more content then I can deal with whatever they do in the end.... we just want more ships and more content....

GET ME THAT ACE SQUADRON BEFORE THE SHOW goes off the AIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"DarjeloSalas;c-1942277" wrote:
Plus, if you still don’t have HT or HMF, that’s not because you didn’t read the devs’ minds a year ago.

Coupled with if your in a guild doing Geo TB and you dont' have HT yet or are even farming it..... I could see you just getting booted on principal.

Getting crystals from Fleet is much easier than getting crystals from Squad Arena.

I went all in on fleet (and particularly BH ships) the moment the Falcon was announced, possibly even before that. I had to gear Bossk for TW anyway, so there was no point in not getting such a great ship. I'd floundered in ships before HT, but I took that opportunity and boosted my rank some - with KRU, Vader & Bossk my go-to pilots, toons I would have geared anyway. I got Falcon 5* the first time round and 7* the second time around. I've been taking 1st place in Fleet Arena almost every day since.

The average of better than 350 crystals per day makes every other farm go radically faster. My Cantina farms get 3 energy refreshes/day. My regular energy gets 3 refreshes per day. One or 2 hard nodes, depending how hard I'm farming and what I'm farming, also get 1 refresh/day.

That's a crystal budget of 550 crystals/day, but getting 400/day from fleet most days and another 50-75 from Arena was enough to make it work. I got Revan, DR, Padme, and Malak all on the 2nd try without even stressing about it. My Brood Alpha was the 3rd in my guild to reach 7*.

Yeah, for 3 months I lagged a little behind while I was pushing for Xanadu Blood and IG-2000 to reach 7*, but ever since then my farms have been dramatically faster than the vast majority of my guild-mates. Now I'm at 78/100 on my last Cantina Farm available, and I can start banking 300 (more) crystals/day, so instead of my crystal stash creeping up about 50/day, it will shoot up 350/day. I can use that for buying major gear pieces to rush the equipment on toons for the first time since I started playing this game. On top of that, Now I'm landing 40-80 in arena, and so my minimum crystal reward from squad arena is 100 instead of 50, and that's due to (almost) keeping up with the meta in a way that I couldn't possibly have done without winning Fleet every day.

Sure, they'll eventually release new toons to Cantina, but with no backlog I'll farm them like a boss and go back to stacking up insane amounts of crystals for gear purchases. I'm not that far out from having every single toon that I want at 7* (Gamorrean and Young Han I've skipped since I'd rather have the gear). Even the ones I don't want are almost all at 5* or higher.

And why?

Because I went all in on fleet.

It doesn't slow you down, it accelerates things massively. It's like trying to drive an overheating car gently at half the speed limit so you don't screw things up completely vs. stopping at the mechanic, fixing the engine, and then driving away at 10 over the limit. Too many people complain about the time it takes to get the engine working at full speed instead of noticing all the full speed cars that were behind them but are now passing them by.

The crystal budget is slowing you down because you dare not drain it too low, lest you not have any for some emergency or other. But if you actually got your fleet in shape, even if it took time away from other priorities, your crystal budget would double (if you're doing well in Squad) or triple (if your squad rank is worse than top 20).

But never mind. Don't bulk up in fleet. Just complain about how you can't compete because you're not willing to farm. That just guarantees that I'll stay on top of fleet forever. I suppose if everyone decided to get good in fleet it would be as hard to take 1st in fleet as it is in Squad.

So keep doing what you're doing, and I'll keep doing fine.

"MasterSeedy;c-1945459" wrote:
Getting crystals from Fleet is much easier than getting crystals from Squad Arena.

I went all in on fleet (and particularly BH ships) the moment the Falcon was announced, possibly even before that. I had to gear Bossk for TW anyway, so there was no point in not getting such a great ship. I'd floundered in ships before HT, but I took that opportunity and boosted my rank some - with KRU, Vader & Bossk my go-to pilots, toons I would have geared anyway. I got Falcon 5* the first time round and 7* the second time around. I've been taking 1st place in Fleet Arena almost every day since.

The average of better than 350 crystals per day makes every other farm go radically faster. My Cantina farms get 3 energy refreshes/day. My regular energy gets 3 refreshes per day. One or 2 hard nodes, depending how hard I'm farming and what I'm farming, also get 1 refresh/day.

That's a crystal budget of 550 crystals/day, but getting 400/day from fleet most days and another 50-75 from Arena was enough to make it work. I got Revan, DR, Padme, and Malak all on the 2nd try without even stressing about it. My Brood Alpha was the 3rd in my guild to reach 7*.

Yeah, for 3 months I lagged a little behind while I was pushing for Xanadu Blood and IG-2000 to reach 7*, but ever since then my farms have been dramatically faster than the vast majority of my guild-mates. Now I'm at 78/100 on my last Cantina Farm available, and I can start banking 300 (more) crystals/day, so instead of my crystal stash creeping up about 50/day, it will shoot up 350/day. I can use that for buying major gear pieces to rush the equipment on toons for the first time since I started playing this game. On top of that, Now I'm landing 40-80 in arena, and so my minimum crystal reward from squad arena is 100 instead of 50, and that's due to (almost) keeping up with the meta in a way that I couldn't possibly have done without winning Fleet every day.

Sure, they'll eventually release new toons to Cantina, but with no backlog I'll farm them like a boss and go back to stacking up insane amounts of crystals for gear purchases. I'm not that far out from having every single toon that I want at 7* (Gamorrean and Young Han I've skipped since I'd rather have the gear). Even the ones I don't want are almost all at 5* or higher.

And why?

Because I went all in on fleet.

It doesn't slow you down, it accelerates things massively. It's like trying to drive an overheating car gently at half the speed limit so you don't screw things up completely vs. stopping at the mechanic, fixing the engine, and then driving away at 10 over the limit. Too many people complain about the time it takes to get the engine working at full speed instead of noticing all the full speed cars that were behind them but are now passing them by.

The crystal budget is slowing you down because you dare not drain it too low, lest you not have any for some emergency or other. But if you actually got your fleet in shape, even if it took time away from other priorities, your crystal budget would double (if you're doing well in Squad) or triple (if your squad rank is worse than top 20).

But never mind. Don't bulk up in fleet. Just complain about how you can't compete because you're not willing to farm. That just guarantees that I'll stay on top of fleet forever. I suppose if everyone decided to get good in fleet it would be as hard to take 1st in fleet as it is in Squad.

So keep doing what you're doing, and I'll keep doing fine.

I stick to that same strategy and it really pays off! The 350-400 crystal income per day from Fleet Arena makes all the difference!

"Dk_rek;c-1943268" wrote:

"KausDebonair;c-1942276" wrote:
Translation: I don’t have the best things so everybody else’s things should be made worse.

This game isn’t built on participation trophies.

Your statement would be correct if they did something with ships besides an assault battle, quick TB battles that are autolosses even with G17 ships, a new capital locked behind a 15 month farm (yeah we get the wallet warriors probably have him unlock already) talking about majority of game here...

And another new capital coming no one knows how it will be released prob another 15 month farm or hopefully a legendary that we can get in 5 months second time around...

does that sound like a lot.... not after 2.5 years. sorry... OP may be mad he dont' have the best things so everyone should get it worse....

But dear lord ships is meh right now... the big solution was to release 2 big capitals (we all wanted BTW) which is good...but the transition from ships being a F2P heaven to instant JKR and DR ship meta is scary.

New ships have been released to people who most likey already have the pilots at G12+ so people who have invested everything into ships have to deal with people who are just given handout fleets (which may or not be good, it's good if it get's people involved in ships and leads to better things... it's not good if it's just a handout to the god players who ignored ships for 2 years

whatever... in the end if WHATEVER they decide to do with ships if it leads to more people playing, spending, and leading to more content then I can deal with whatever they do in the end.... we just want more ships and more content....

GET ME THAT ACE SQUADRON BEFORE THE SHOW goes off the AIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, a lot of people including myself have a G12+ Republic fleet waiting for a good capital ship to wreak havoc. But the grind IS obviously too friggin hard to get Negotiator.
They should at the very least do some minor balance changes to the Endurance, even a lil bit.