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I don’t need to address my hypocrisy, because there is none.
Discord is free, so there is no need for the game to include a more comprehensive chat feature. If people want to engage in more structured chat about the game / their guild, they can get that without paying any additional money. The same goes for wookiepedia.
HotUtils is not free. At the moment, players can only benefit from the things that resource provides by paying additional money. I’m surprised you think “Just use HotUtils” is a valid contribution to the discussion. Kinda like telling a starving man to “just buy food”.
Yes I’m gameplay minded. It’s a game. It’s not a chat app or an encyclopaedia. The devs should spend their time working on things that enhance the gameplay, not making the app something that it isn’t.
I’d also love to see your data to backup your claim that the minority of players care about mods.
Anyway, the mod loadout thing is veering off topic - it was just my example of a QOL improvement the player base actually needs. I don’t think your suggestion is needed, and I’ve seen no evidence that it’s wanted by anyone other than you.
Again you fail to understand anything I write. You draw the line where you are comfortable with no regard for others. It's all fine and dandy for people to download Discord or go to Wookiepedia, because they are external tools that make up for a lack of in-game feature. But you draw the line at HotUtils because it's a paid service. So it's okay for other external tools and sites to be used as substitutes, just not that one? Your analogy is also funny because a small mod feature isn't comparable to food you need to survive. It's convenience. Here I'll fix it, it's more like telling a man who doesn't want to walk to work to "Take the bus". The bus is convenient but not a necessity to make it to work. And it comes at a price.
And again you miss the point. You know what doesn't affect actual gameplay? The PC client, it was convenience, and the playerbase adores it. It's nice and fresh like a new coat of paint. And of course the game isn't a chat app...you just need to download one in order to do the chatting right? A lot of guilds require it after all.
Again you failed to understand my message. People care about mods. I said that there was a minority of players who care about mod 'loadouts' and moving these mods around before a raid or TW.
And once again you fail to bring any actual criticism. "I don't like your suggestion so you shouldn't do it", "Only you want this", and "Why would we do this instead of doing something else?" Is not valuable criticism. It only hinders innovation. We could entertain the idea. Discuss the pros and **bleep** of it being implemented. It's not like we're posting a Wookiepedia article to every character either. Just a small biography that explains their character and importance in the lore.
As of now, I'm only concerned about the memory-intensive critique you had earlier. Stick with that one, it's better.
- DarjeloSalas5 months agoRising Hotshot
Please don’t confuse me thinking your suggestion is an unnecessary waste of the devs resources and time with me not understanding your words.
- PeachySWGOH5 months agoSeasoned Rookie
Phamen wrote:
"Only you want this", and "Why would we do this instead of doing something else?" Is not valuable criticism
Actually, those can be valuable criticism. A critical portion of any proposal evaluation process is cost-benefit analysis, where "how many users actually want this?" and "is there anything else we would be better off investing resources in?" are two typical questions to asks.
I browse about swgoh on the forums and reddit on a daily basis, for the past several years. I have never seen any request to include character biographies in the game until your post. Of course it's only one data point, but "only you want this" is true as far as I'm concerned.
And from the requests/complaints other players did bring up, and the frequency of some of those being brought up, I think it's safe to say that both CG and us would be better off with those implemented instead of your proposal.
- Phamen5 months agoNew Rookie
And from the requests/complaints other players did bring up, and the frequency of some of those being brought up, I think it's safe to say that both CG and us would be better off with those implemented instead of your proposal.
This is from one of my recent responses:
"If you haven't read the title yet it's a suggestion not a mandate. The devs don't need to implement it in the next few months or even years. It's a suggestion. They can improve all the gameplay of the game whenever they please. If they decide to try something new, this suggestion will always be here."
I fear nobody understands my responses.
A lot of the players that play this game simply don't use Reddit or forums. Like I've been writing, nobody seems to see the casual player's side of things. It's only players that care enough about the game to dig into forums, reddit, etc. But the casual player only ever boots up the game. I've been in many guilds and I have the opportunity to see how the casual players go about the game. I was always surprised when they weren't aware of data mines as soon as they came out, applied questionable omicrons, disregarded modding, applied terrible zetas, and built up questionable characters. These people go unnoticed because they enjoy the simplicity of the game. In my guild especially, our discord's general chat blew up with a bunch of people, those who rarely talked, sending pictures of the new portraits. The Revans, Darth Vader, Clones, etc. A decent bit of the player base was upset because of how similar some portraits looked and how difficult it was to recognize them, and then there were the casual players who thought they were cool. Unfortunately, those players don't run to the forums to express this and they don't go on Reddit to post the pictures. They just silently applaud.
Although this suggestion is not of great importance or a great asset to the game. It is still a suggestion that can be made if CG ever decides to do it. There should be a space for open discussions of different suggestions and ideas instead of being blasted with a "Why would we add this instead of this?". This isn't a king of the hill game, one suggestion doesn't trump all the others. They can all share the same space and be worked upon.
I also doubt that CG hasn't seen all the other QoL suggestions that have been made in the game. Some of which have yet to be implemented. People bring them up all the time. Why not add an innovative suggestion? Why not try and rework broken aspects of the game or, in my case, add something new to the game? New game mode. New ideas. New suggestions.And from the requests/complaints other players did bring up, and the frequency of some of those being brought up, I think it's safe to say that both CG and us would be better off with those implemented instead of your proposal.
Why shoot down a new idea in favor of other implementations? Why can't these other implementations be favored and my proposal still be in the backlog for later? That's the problem I have when making suggestions, people just shoot down new ideas without giving any reasonable criticism. "I'd rather have this suggestion than that one" Why not have both?
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