Question about seemingly "random" Rancor reward placing when one person solos it?

You were asking for the justification for this arrangement and I'm just informing you the rationale behind it.

"Huatimus;c-1792823" wrote:
You were asking for the justification for this arrangement and I'm just informing you the rationale behind it.

Doesn't sound like justice to me, more of a dictatorship ;)

Here's how placement works:

You click JOIN during the join period. Check where you are on that list, AND: IT'S RANDOM and does not take into account WHEN you click JOIN. Are you in #15 spot? #50 spot? #1 spot?

Remember that number.

Run the Raid. Anyone who solo's the whole thing technically ties with score, so the game goes back to the JOIN list and rearranges everyone who has an identical score based on where they were on the JOIN list. If you were #10 but you were the highest slotted person on the JOIN list that was able to solo you'll get #1.

If you posted 245,389 damage and someone else in your guild happened to do exactly the same, the two of you would be slotted in based on your total damage, probably somewhere near the bottom. BUT one of you would be ahead of the other: that is determined by who was higher on the join list.

In your exact case: 49 people post a 0 score. 1 person solos. He/she/they get #1 rewards and everyone else just gets slotted based on the JOIN list. So if you were #1 on join list, you would get #2 rewards because someone outscored you.

"evoluza;c-1792824" wrote:
It is random!

This.

"jayjonbeach;c-1792820" wrote:
I really don't think it's random. I joined at the beginning once, joined at the end the next time, both times DEAD LAST!!!! I've almost got Solo 7* and this is just crap. Maybe because I am new in the guild?

You can tell before any damage is done too, like this time I joined right before the damage started and I was already in last place at that point. The first time I joined at the beginning and was in 1st or 2nd, and then everyone that joined after me just kept knocking me further down the ladder so weird

It's purely random, you are assigned a random seed the moment you sign up. I watch it quite carefully throughout the years. With the new algo the tiebreakers are determined at the moment you sign up. So you are able to foresee your position if you solod it. (not the exact placement but the order you'll get amongst other soloers)

"Vendi1983;c-1792922" wrote:
Here's how placement works:

You click JOIN during the join period. Check where you are on that list, AND: IT'S RANDOM and does not take into account WHEN you click JOIN. Are you in #15 spot? #50 spot? #1 spot?

This is what I was led to believe, except, my position CHANGED the first time! I was in spot 1 or 2 after I joined as I joined first or second (can't remember), then after 30 more people joined, I came dead last! So the next time I joined last, and then I STILL came last!

I used to be good at math, not anymore, here is what a google search showed for this to happen:

Odds of coming in 30th place with 30 people: 1 in 30 = 0.03%.
Odds of it happening twice in a row: 1 in 900 = 0.001%, that is some kind of really bad luck there if true.

"jayjonbeach;c-1793101" wrote:

"Vendi1983;c-1792922" wrote:
Here's how placement works:

You click JOIN during the join period. Check where you are on that list, AND: IT'S RANDOM and does not take into account WHEN you click JOIN. Are you in #15 spot? #50 spot? #1 spot?

This is what I was led to believe, except, my position CHANGED the first time! I was in spot 1 or 2 after I joined as I joined first or second (can't remember), then after 30 more people joined, I came dead last! So the next time I joined last, and then I STILL came last!

I used to be good at math, not anymore, here is what a google search showed for this to happen:

Odds of coming in 30th place with 30 people: 1 in 30 = 0.03%.
Odds of it happening twice in a row: 1 in 900 = 0.001%, that is some kind of really bad luck there if true.

Keep watching, only thing that's important is the moment you join. As others keep joining with their unique seeds your overall placement will keep changing, but if your seed turns out to be the highest number you'll still end up first (before anyone hits the raid). It really doesn't matter when you do this.

The placements before you join is %100 unimportant.

"Agarwaen;c-1792825" wrote:

"Huatimus;c-1792823" wrote:
You were asking for the justification for this arrangement and I'm just informing you the rationale behind it.

Doesn't sound like justice to me, more of a dictatorship ;)

Since the ranking is random, after a (very) large number of raids it will even out, so that each guild member had the same average rank and same amount of rewards. We do the same on evenings when Rancor raids collide with other raids. It's fine and fair.