My supposition is that the only way for a FTP (a true FTP, not a "I spent money but now I don't" one) to get rank 1 on a server is to have the level pause like there was at level 60 then level 70. This must have allowed FTP's to get caught up to the PTP's. Otherwise I don't see how an FTP player can get to #1 competing with people that are leveling and gearing much more rapidly than others.Would you top ranked FTP players agree or disagree with this? Did the level pauses assist you?

"DV_27;327044" wrote:I started playing a bit late so I didn't get the pause at 60 because the cap was already increased by then but I still stayed top 10 or so most of the way up to 70. At that cap and since then, I've been getting 1 a lot. But before the pause as you call it, I only managed 1 maybe 3/4 times and not a dime spent right? No crystal packs, no $5 starter bundle etc....

"gobears21;30482" wrote:My supposition is that the only way for a FTP (a true FTP, not a "I spent money but now I don't" one) to get rank 1 on a server is to have the level pause like there was at level 60 then level 70. This must have allowed FTP's to get caught up to the PTP's. Otherwise I don't see how an FTP player can get to #1 competing with people that are leveling and gearing much more rapidly than others.Would you top ranked FTP players agree or disagree with this? Did the level pauses assist you?Pauses definitely help. I'm FTP (sans $10 on a dooku pack and one-time $5 subscription) and am fortunate to only see a few whales on my shard. I was able to catch up at 60 with a single dedicated team (Sid/Poe/IG-86/GS/Poggle). There also weren't many meta shifts at 60 but the one that did happen (Poe) was one that I was a part of early. I got ahead of the whales on my shard that had been primarily running Jedi. When the speed meta came along with 70 I had stored up ~4k crystals from being routinely top-5 in my shard and was able to outpace other FTP and stay within a few levels of my resident 2 whales (there are now a few more at the top) . I had also made sure I spread out my stars and wasn't getting anyone up to 7* so I was prepared for meta shifts. 6* toons are perfectly fine top tier arena but if you have too low of a score, even though it's meaningless, you do get targeted more frequently and there is still no foolproof defensive team.With the level 80 move I struggle a little more to stay top-5 causing me to typically buy two refreshes instead of one. I think that is much more due to the current Dooku/RG meta being unfriendly to people who don't spend money and farmed RG legit since his buff and haven't farmed Rey. I'll have RG up to 6* in another week or so but I suspect both him and Dooku will get nerfed soon so I'm trying to build up a Rebel team which along with a Droid team seems to be the most likely to survive future changes.

Hello, I'm full F2P here. Not a dime spent, and I also didn't managed to tap into the meta until mid games.Only in the recent 3 weeks I've managed to climb into top 10 with the speed meta.And slowly I gotten top 5 every day.There were times I got number 1, but ever since the capped lifted and some of the whales managed to pre-craft gears, it got harder to get number 1 spot, but still, I get number 2 which is great for f2p too.Yes, the pauses helped F2p greatly because things become stale and almost everything is evenly matched with p2p except for gears.You catch up on all those eventually until it's lifted again.So keep playing! and be active all the time!

"TheRedDeath;327163" wrote:Hello, I'm full F2P here. Not a dime spent, and I also didn't managed to tap into the meta until mid games.Only in the recent 3 weeks I've managed to climb into top 10 with the speed meta.And slowly I gotten top 5 every day.There were times I got number 1, but ever since the capped lifted and some of the whales managed to pre-craft gears, it got harder to get number 1 spot, but still, I get number 2 which is great for f2p too.Yes, the pauses helped F2p greatly because things become stale and almost everything is evenly matched with p2p except for gears.You catch up on all those eventually until it's lifted again.So keep playing! and be active all the time!I'm actually not FTP, I'm a ptp player. I have seen a lot of ftp people touting that they can keep top ranks etc and I just don't see how that's possible for someone just starting out. Those that have commented on this thread have for the most part confirmed that most that are ftp and on top benefited from the level pauses. It is this reason that I wrote this thread a while back: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/26674/why-do-they-not-lock-down-each-shardPeople don't always realize now how they benefited in ways that new players don't benefit from. All they see is what impacts themselves and can't see past their own myopic viewpoint. For instance, all the talk of pre-crafted gear and how EA doesn't care etc when in fact the total userbase this would have actually impacted has to be such a low percentage and with all the bugs impacting 100% of the user base, it is obvious where the focus could be.People say that some things are "just a blip in the radar".... every few seconds you hear a "beep"....."beep"....."beep" But for the person actually *in* the blip.... it sounds like "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep"Everyone sounds from their beeeeeeeeeeep :)21

"gobears21;327200" wrote:I'm actually not FTP, I'm a ptp player. I have seen a lot of ftp people touting that they can keep top ranks etc and I just don't see how that's possible for someone just starting out. Those that have commented on this thread have for the most part confirmed that most that are ftp and on top benefited from the level pauses. Level pauses obviously help. So did starting out with the game. There are more avenues for people to P2W now so the gap between have and have-nots will be higher in arena. Since arena is the source of the crystal lifeblood of a competitive FTP player that matters.But I've never seen a shard other than the soft release shard that had more than a handful of true whales that are spending thousands of dollars to stay in front. And the difference between spending thousands and spending a couple hundred are huge. All it takes for a FTP player to catch someone who's spent $200 is a one or two bad farms by the paying player. So while getting #1 is going to take longer because of those things getting to the top 10 should be very doable by any FTP in a month or two of playing. It's obviously helpful if you get in a fresh shard at start (ie. first day you do arena you're already in the top 200 and not in the 10000s) but even a slightly older shard will still be something you can catch up to.

Question for top ranked FTP players

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mikebpiz
10 years ago
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.
Nikoms565
10 years ago
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

The issue of course is, if they hit one or two of those heroes with the nerf bat, you (as most f2p players would be) are screwed. Ask any f2p players that lived through the Poe meta with Barris (or the current one with Poe). You just happened to guess correctly, with heroes that worked in previous metas and are still viable. A majority of f2p don't get so lucky.
Goju_Ukot
10 years ago
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

I'm sure it doesn't hurt that you had the foresight to precraft (I still have no idea why they allow the equipping of this gear while not opening it to general farming).
MHGobears21
10 years ago
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

How would you get Yoda if you didn't focus on jedi?
emvedebe
10 years ago
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

i call b s ;) maybe not all of it, but atleast some of it.

and this claim only proves that f2p players cant addapt fast to meta changes because they can only focus on 6 toons
MHGobears21
10 years ago
"leef;327651" wrote:
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

i call b s ;) maybe not all of it, but atleast some of it.

and this claim only proves that f2p players cant addapt fast to meta changes because they can only focus on 6 toons

Well not only this, but if you read my supposition it is that any FTP player that is top ranked had to benefit at some point of a level pause. There's just no way without incredible luck otherwise that you'd keep top rank and yet I see far too many ftp players claiming that they don't need to spend money to be top ranked.... maybe not but they absolutely did need to spend time and a lot of it. Always 2 sides to every coin
Goju_Ukot
10 years ago
"gobears21;327688" wrote:
"leef;327651" wrote:
"slickdealer;327581" wrote:
As a FTPer who places #1 almost daily my advice is to stop focusing on so many characters.

QGJ
Lumi
Yoda or Daka
Dooku
ST Han

All gear 9. 34000+ power. How? I spend all my time on 6 characters.

Whales can gear up 20 toons. Until more than 5 are allowed in arena it doesn't matter much.

i call b s ;) maybe not all of it, but atleast some of it.

and this claim only proves that f2p players cant addapt fast to meta changes because they can only focus on 6 toons

Well not only this, but if you read my supposition it is that any FTP player that is top ranked had to benefit at some point of a level pause. There's just no way without incredible luck otherwise that you'd keep top rank and yet I see far too many ftp players claiming that they don't need to spend money to be top ranked.... maybe not but they absolutely did need to spend time and a lot of it. Always 2 sides to every coin

A lot of it is luck for sure. Both to have what works in the meta and be on a server that doesn't have insane whales going for the high rank.

This game has strategy but not to the point where you can outsmart your opponent with subpar pieces. This isn't chess.
MHGobears21
10 years ago
"Beewl;327697" wrote:
FTP definitely suffers when the cap gets raised and meta changes. I was able to get about 7-10 maxed 7* before the cap went to 80. Still hanging in top 15 / 1 to 3 at payout. Luckily, the meta has stayed about the same with the last update.

I don't think that's true; I just don't think people have had the time to adapt quite yet. Give it time, there's a new meta for sure....
RashRenegade
10 years ago
Realize that ptp players spend a lot of resources on charecters outside of the meta and get a relatively small return from increased flexibility. Sure during meta changes and level increases they can maintain their top positions, but within a few weeks a good ftp player can be back at the top again.

Besides pre crafted gear and level, there aren't that many ptp exclusive charecters that are in the meta. They get Leia, a few more stars for RG, or an ewok or clone squad.

In fact, I think this past update was good for ftp players. Why? Because protection is the same reguardless of stars! With the same gear a 5* RG and a 7* RG are now closer to strength with protection than they were pre update.
emvedebe
10 years ago
so far only 1 player claiming to be f2p and consistandly ranking nr1. all the others including myself noticed a drop in arena rank. seems like your supposition was correct. f2p will always be playing catch up to p2p until the lvl cap.

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