Raid cost for smaller Guilds

"jpeng;c-2194344" wrote:
do an appropriate cost then but 60,000 tickets for a 5 person guild to do heroic rancor is excessive. or even give them all rank 11 rewards like the sim does.

60000 tickets designed for a 50 person guild. If you choose to not try to keep your guild full, then you and your guild will suffer.

The issue has less to do with the ticket cost for the raid, and more to do with your choice to only have 5 people in your guild.

"jpeng;c-2194345" wrote:
guilds that are okay with you skipping territory battles? really? that just seems morally unfair to the other players in that guild. plus the whole point of the post was about not wanting to be in a guild of 50 but just be a guild with a family of 5.

That's an interesting situation you wish you be in. Unfortunately that is not the design or purpose of a guild in a game, this is meant to be a social aspect to help add stability and more diverse content.
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As stated above, to adjust the everything so a guild can do all the guild things (or even some of them) without being full would be only to serve a very small segment of the playerbase. This would also lead to more balance testing on all of these elements to not give an advantage to "less work" of having a not full guild.

If they didnt balance this than not full guilds could have a huge advantage, but remove stability from the game, when 2-3 people leave a guild even at 1 time, nothing really happens, just more recruiting. 2-3 players leaving a 5-10 person guild, could cause a larger group to leave, or just dissolve the guild all together.

"jpeng;d-238200" wrote:
it would be nice to have a sliding scale for cost of raids, i’m currently in a 5 man guild and don’t want to be in anything more what is frustrating is that we can complete pit, tank and sith raid but it takes forever to save tickets. it would be nice to have a sliding scale for ticket cost so we could set it to 5 or even 10 participants only and launch just as often as the larger guilds. so 5 players could launch a pit raid 6000 tickets instead of of 60,000 tickets and only be able to have a couple of raids a months. it would also help with getting those character shards that are only available in the guild store not to mention the gear crunch. note:- not asking for better rewards for those 5 players just to be able to raid as frequently as larger guilds. thanks for reading.

Would you consider it fair that you still win the full amount of currency, gear and shards for ranks 1 through 5 if you only pay one 10th the raid tickets to launch the raid?

Also such a feature could be abused. Imagine having ticket alts in your guild to help generate tickets and then kicking the alts just before launching the raid for 6k tickets.

As noted above, having only 5 members in your guild is crippling your ability to have raids more often. I personally don’t understand not wanting to do TB or TW, but that decision was yours to make.

@Waqui i’ve already addressed those points further on in the additional posts i posted above.

this was just was a suggestion, simply from a situation i found myself in as with many other workplaces or families i would imagine not wanting to be in a guild with strangers. who knows CG might have liked the idea and thought it might be worth implemented. although i feel it would be an improvement i also understand the effort/cost to incorporate this into the game out ways the benefit to CG.

@Kyno i’m not sure how small guilds would have an advantage as clearly they would be losing out on much of the TW, TB and dailies reward/currencies. they would also suck at the new rancor raid, this would only allow those smaller guilds to raid more often on raids that are now outdated allowing them guild currency to progress their rosters a little faster that is currently offered as simmable or easily completed to those in larger guilds.

"jpeng;c-2194587" wrote:
Waqui i’ve already addressed those points further on in the additional posts i posted above.

this was just was a suggestion, simply from a situation i found myself in as with many other workplaces or families i would imagine not wanting to be in a guild with strangers. who knows CG might have liked the idea and thought it might be worth implemented. although i feel it would be an improvement i also understand the effort/cost to incorporate this into the game out ways the benefit to CG.

Kyno i’m not sure how small guilds would have an advantage as clearly they would be losing out on much of the TW, TB and dailies reward/currencies. they would also suck at the new rancor raid, this would only allow those smaller guilds to raid more often on raids that are now outdated allowing them guild currency to progress their rosters a little faster that is currently offered as simmable or easily completed to those in larger guilds.

Let's be really clear here, there is no such thing as a small guild.

Players who do not want to be part of a full guild should not be given any advantage, even on older or simmable content. The ticket system is put in place to give pacing to the event, based on gameplay.

The amount of work to properly balance rewards/events/pacing, and making sure that there is no way to take advantage of this setup and still bounce around to a full guild for TW/TB, is a lot and should not be "wasted" for such edge cases as this.

"Bulldog1205;c-2194623" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2194422" wrote:

"jpeng;d-238200" wrote:
it would be nice to have a sliding scale for cost of raids, i’m currently in a 5 man guild and don’t want to be in anything more what is frustrating is that we can complete pit, tank and sith raid but it takes forever to save tickets. it would be nice to have a sliding scale for ticket cost so we could set it to 5 or even 10 participants only and launch just as often as the larger guilds. so 5 players could launch a pit raid 6000 tickets instead of of 60,000 tickets and only be able to have a couple of raids a months. it would also help with getting those character shards that are only available in the guild store not to mention the gear crunch. note:- not asking for better rewards for those 5 players just to be able to raid as frequently as larger guilds. thanks for reading.

Also such a feature could be abused. Imagine having ticket alts in your guild to help generate tickets and then kicking the alts just before launching the raid for 6k tickets.

I dont support catering to 5 man guilds, but I do really wish they would adjust the ticket system so that a full 50/50 every day is not required to get max tickets. Maybe allow each person to earn 625 tickets instead of 600, with a guild cap at 30k still? Or give out a percentage of 30k equal to the percentage of the max tickets your guild earned for the day? You'd probably need a minimum number of players to qualify for the last 1 so you don't have 1 man ticket farming guilds.

I'd thought about some similar system for alleviating the burden of all needing cap. Like if a high enough percentage hit 600, you get a certain amount of bonus tickets. Also I think it would be nice if they could incrementally increase the cap the smaller the guild gets to account for being at like 47 out of 50 and still getting max raid tickets.

Obviously a 5-person guild would still take much longer to open raids, unless all 5 were spending so many crystals everyday that they could hit 6,000 energy/day each. Which if they're spending that much it wouldn't be a concern to CG I think. So with a sliding scale it's still harder for really small guilds to raid, but if you are missing just a few members or two have extenuating circumstances, the guild can still hit max.

this idea isn’t just for a 5 man guild, that is just my situation but there are guilds with 10, 25 or 30 players that it takes forever to launch raids that are considered old content and are easily solo’d by newer players. having tried an alt account in some of these guilds and can confirm this suggestion would also help some newer players progress faster which seems to be a focus for CG now.

bouncing around from weak guild to weak guild a lot of them have inactive players, this would encourage them to remove those players, instead i found myself locked out since i don’t want to be in a guild with 25 inactives, if i knew there was only 25 active players it is allowing me choose better. also in these guilds is the type of player it would help and improve their enjoyment of the game enabling them to raid more often and progress faster possibly spend more.

yes i want to be in a guild of 5 players but i miss out on raiding so i’m having to look elsewhere since the game doesn’t support for smaller guilds. i fully understand players posting here not getting it but from a player such as myself i feel CG is missing out on an improvement that would cater for myself or the lone player possibly better.

i’m not sure why people don’t think i’m serious, i play msf on my own and thoroughly enjoy it but parts of the game i’m locked out of also character shards i can’t get either. but with swgoh those raids are viable for the single player or small groups to do thus enabling better progress for those who are currently not catered for and enabling them better access to the selection of characters available.