Relegated in GAC but winning?!?!

"Jeromy;c-2344610" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2344594" wrote:
my alt was toward top of the division and squish raised it up. 2x. main was middle of division, dropped. Main was lower end of division, also dropped. That's the opposite of what you said.

I said "Same thing for each division: some will be slightly larger, and some will be slightly smaller." and included normally, generally, and typically in multiple other locations because it completely depends on the population of your division. Your experience perfectly demonstrates this - two of your accounts where in over-inflated divisions which were adjusted down and your other account was in the opposite, an under-inflated division and was thus increased. This shows perfectly why the squish needs to happen, because each division will shift slightly and need to reach back to the proper equilibrium.

"InyakSolomon88;c-2344594" wrote:
P.S. 70 points is 2 wins so not "slight" changes. And I've seen ppl be squished over 100 points before.

It is very important to differentiate two things - (1) the actual definition of each division and (2) where you think you are in reference to that division. Technically, Kyber 1 is only the top 10% of players in the Kyber league - that has NOTHING to do with the values listed as the thresholds (which I will call "goal posts") listed in game. Where you think you are with regards to that percentage is based on your skill rating and the "goal posts" which are listed next to each division: for example, Kyber 1 is 3600 skill rating. Now if you have 3601 skill rating, it does NOT mean that you are in the top 10% of players in the Kyber league.

The squish adjusts your skill rating to better match the percentage where you are. The squish happens because they want to keep the "goal posts" the same. If they didn't do the squish, then the skill rating for Kyber 1 would have to be increased (or decreased depending on if there are over or under 10% of players in that league above or below that threshold) to a higher value, for example 3670. This means over time that the thresholds would expand as mentioned here (https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/252923/grand-arena-seasonal-skill-squish#latest) which explains (very briefly) why the squish is required.

So in the example you gave (70 skill rating change ~ 2 wins), that is how far you where away from the technical definition of the next division (i.e. Kyber 1 being top 10% of players). So if they got rid of the squish, then the "goal posts" would have to change to then reflect that 70 skill rating difference. In the case of the squish, the overall "goal posts" stay the same and CG doesn't have to go through and redistribute the leagues and divisions at some point in the future. So in that case where you drop 70 skill rating, where you think you are in reference to the true percentage for that division was off - so you think you are being screwed over, but you are still the exact same skill rating away from the technical cutoff of top 10% (or whatever value based on the division).

"InyakSolomon88;c-2344594" wrote:
P.P.S. Where did CG say they will create more content modes bc of GAC?

They never said that they are specifically making new game modes but have mentioned that this is a long-time fix which avoids the problems of the old system. So if they don't need to keep adjusting with GAC, they have more time to work on everything else, which I said "the devs do not need to spend time on readjusting divisions as the game grows - which allows them to focus on developing new game modes, characters/ships, etc."

You seem confused. Kyber 1 cutoff isn't 3600 points. It was originally ~3540ish and has been raised to 3610 after the first of the "new" GAC events. They also did the squish. So CG is both moving the goalposts AND squishing accounts, which goes against everything you're asserting. Also CG took my 4.5 mil alt and raised it up thanks to the squish far higher than it deserved or needed to go. it's now in K5. where it's being beaten to a pulp bc i don't have 22 teams to be able to do offense and defense there. So I have 3 entire weeks of gameplay of being beaten the **** out of. It sounds like way more fun than it is, believe me.

The biggest issue for me, really, is the arbitrary nature of this squish. My alt, to be extremely blunt, is a terrible account. I made it as a fun account and it does not chase metas. It has terrible mods. It has 1 GL. All decisions I made and I'm not hiding behind or regret at all. But it does not deserve to be in K5. CG artificially raised that account, who barely won more than it lost (and usually against opponents who didn't set defense), without any cause. They gave me enough points to promote me to a higher league before the new season even started ffs :joy:

But what stands out to me the most here is your continued assertion that CG doesn't need to keep readjusting GAC. They have to constantly adjust GAC bc of their laser-focus on retaining these really dumb divisions at their "proper" percentages. That means both moving the goalposts for divisions AND squishing accounts (or as I call them, stripping wins from players and giving free wins to others thereby removing player agency). Crumb has stated that the squish doesn't impact player progress. That's actually impossible. The squish removes skill rating points, or gives skill rating points. I have seen in both of my accounts it relegate me out of a division and promote me out of a league before the first match even began.

If it worked as you claim it does- the goalposts don't move and the squish is the only thing involved- I would still disagree with your argument that this is a great system but you would at least have an argument that the system is working as intended. But the system as CG designed it is ALWAYS going to have bloat in several divisions of each league by the end of the event, which they will ALWAYS have to therefore alter in some form or just succumb and make higher leagues. (I also would argue that they made Kyber and in particular K1 far too large initially and that's on them)

The system is not a great one. It's move goalposts. Do squish. With CG's system there's no chance for accounts to "settle". They're going to constantly be artificially moved so CG can make their division sizes fit. Which means CG has to change things around frequently. This new format is far more hands on than their old format.