Response to Raid Economy Update

"MasterSeedy;c-2421564" wrote:
@herd_nerfer , you're wrong.

First, most of that gear that you're saying was useless actually converted to relic mats -- a very substantial amount of relic mats that can't in any way be replaced by purchasing relic mats with Raid currency today.

Second, you said this:

I feel like people are sleeping on the fact that you can get exactly what gear you need when you need it.

And this is not true. They killed the Guild Token income and GT income was THE place to get g11 finishers. There's simply no other reliable source for them. There is no reliable access to these in the new currencies, and thus you can't actually get the exactly the gear that you need if you're at all interested in bringing characters from g11 to g12.

Now, they've said that they're going to fix that with respect to Mk4 Bacta Gel, but not with respect to Mk6 Droid Callers, a very important and frequently needed g11 finisher.

You can't get exactly what you want when you want it. I've already noted this. How many other pieces that were routinely accessed through guild tokens are now problematic to access?

AFAICT the only access to Mk5 Thermal Detonators is through a pack of 125 for an insane amount of currency. What if I don't want to pay for 125 at a time? TOO BAD FOR ME.

And, of course, I also identified the main problem with relic mats. But there's another: because they made them ridiculously (and unjustifiably) expensive, they ALSO had to make the lots small so people could buy them at all. Otherwise you would need more currency than you're allowed to accumulate.

But we don't need Bronziums in lots of 2. We need them in lots of 30 and 40.

Before we let gear passively accrue and then we could buy 100 or 200 bronziums when we wanted.

Now we are forced to be click monkeys, taking every tiny package along the way so that we'll have our bronziums built up in 12 days from now.

That's not when we need it, and it's also not fun. I don't want to be clicking repeatedly for tiny rewards. Just sell 30 at a time for a reasonable amount of Mk1 so we're not scrolling interminably every 6 hours and going tricking blind worrying that 8 days from now we'll be 2 bronziums short.

The relic material economy has just become insane, and there's no way you can honestly claim that we can simply purchase what we need when we need it if you're talking g11 finishers or Mk5 thermals or (for the next few days until they fix it) Mk4 Bacta Gel and certainly not for relic mats, so I don't know why you did.

I'm not saying it's perfect - it's not - but is it worse than what we had before? We have to see what changes they're making to really know that, I think.

I realize SSC has been reduced somewhat - but MK6 callers are available in the shard shop. Now, that's not as good as having them available for MK1 - but unless I'm missing something (happy to be corrected on this if it's wrong) - almost no other G7-G11 piece is going to be unavailable for MK1 after the fix aside from Kyro (i think) - which is cheaper to get from other avenues anyway.

I do see your point about relic mats and the conversion of those - and again, I'm not saying this is perfect but I think it's going to take a little time to figure out exactly where the new pinches are going to show up - because the updated rewards actually seems remove a lot of pinches.

I think there is something to be said for how fast this new system will allow us to gear up characters. Hoarding gear is less crucial since the rare purple gear drops from raids are almost always available (barring MK6 callers, as you've rightly pointed out). I think it's likely that after you get to G12 on a given character, or group of characters that you're focusing on - it should free up considerable amounts of MK1 currency to convert to relic mats. Higher level relic mats remain a problem.

I guess what I'm saying is that the new system changes the entire dynamic of how we handle our gear stash and manage these resources - trying to apply the old way of doing things in a 1:1 way to how we'll have to do things after the changes may not make sense.

FWIW, I agree with pretty much all your criticisms of the current reward structure. I'm just not convinced yet that we'll necessarily be worse off (after Wednesday). Time will tell.