CG stated that the number of players who want a sandbox mode is relatively small. So I wanted to ask everyone, do you want a sandbox mode? Do your guildmates want it? If you are against having a sandbox mode, could you please explain your reasoning?

"KingPerry38;d-228608" wrote:CG stated that the number of players who want a sandbox mode is relatively small. So I wanted to ask everyone, do you want a sandbox mode? Do your guildmates want it? If you are against having a sandbox mode, could you please explain your reasoning?I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.

Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

"ZAP;c-2101168" wrote:I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.Just to be clear, judging a sandbox mode based on repayable events is insane. Yeah, players would get bored very fast if all they could fight is a group of Stormtroopers over and over until the end of time. No one cares about fighting a bunch of weak units, much less units that we don’t have access to. They want to fight actual teams. And as it was pointed out by a few YouTubers, it was also hypocritical. On one hand, CG says they don’t want to do a sandbox mode because not enough people would use it. On the other hand, they claim the reason their art looks so bad is because they’re trying to make sure a fraction of a percent of Android and iOS players can play the game. The reason that doesn’t make sense is because they’re just excuses after the fact to cover up the truth. CG created strawman for the sandbox mode because the reality is they don’t want to do anything unless it can be directly monetized. That’s the reason they won’t do a sandbox mode. Period. And making the effort to get their art anywhere close to their competitors would cost time and money that they wouldn’t directly be able to profit off of.

"Electricboa;c-2101565" wrote:"ZAP;c-2101168" wrote:I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.Just to be clear, judging a sandbox mode based on repayable events is insane. Yeah, players would get bored very fast if all they could fight is a group of Stormtroopers over and over until the end of time. No one cares about fighting a bunch of weak units, much less units that we don’t have access to. They want to fight actual teams. And as it was pointed out by a few YouTubers, it was also hypocritical. On one hand, CG says they don’t want to do a sandbox mode because not enough people would use it. On the other hand, they claim the reason their art looks so bad is because they’re trying to make sure a fraction of a percent of Android and iOS players can play the game. The reason that doesn’t make sense is because they’re just excuses after the fact to cover up the truth. CG created strawman for the sandbox mode because the reality is they don’t want to do anything unless it can be directly monetized. That’s the reason they won’t do a sandbox mode. Period. And making the effort to get their art anywhere close to their competitors would cost time and money that they wouldn’t directly be able to profit off of. Your first paragraph is spot on. However the monetization argument doesn't work because there are plenty of ways to monetize it. It leads me to believe that the issue is that they don't think we'll pay what they would want to charge (and they're probably right).If they did give us something along the lines of a sandbox mode that was reasonably affordable for the average (mostly) FTP player, I think they worry we would actually use and enjoy it too much, cutting into play time/profit in other game modes.

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ZapZapZipZap
6 years ago
"KingPerry38;d-228608" wrote:
CG stated that the number of players who want a sandbox mode is relatively small. So I wanted to ask everyone, do you want a sandbox mode? Do your guildmates want it? If you are against having a sandbox mode, could you please explain your reasoning?

I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.

They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.

Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....
Nihion
6 years ago
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.
BobcatSkywalker
6 years ago
"Nihion;c-2101239" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

They said they are not working on a new raid it got cancelled. we havent had a new game mode in about 2 years...
Ima_Smakya
6 years ago
"BobcatSkywalker;c-2101538" wrote:
"Nihion;c-2101239" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

They said they are not working on a new raid it got cancelled. we havent had a new game mode in about 2 years...

Wait for it...
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"BobcatSkywalker;c-2101538" wrote:
"Nihion;c-2101239" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

They said they are not working on a new raid it got cancelled. we havent had a new game mode in about 2 years...

GAC doesn't count?
emoore28
New Spectator
6 years ago
"BobcatSkywalker;c-2101538" wrote:
"Nihion;c-2101239" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

They said they are not working on a new raid it got cancelled. we havent had a new game mode in about 2 years...

True, but they said they paused development on the raid to work on something they think will reach more players... and paused development doesn't necessarily mean cancelled, but I say let's wait for the road ahead to see what they have for us before we passed ultimate judgment. I'm really hoping the new mode they're working on is exciting.
Electricboa
6 years ago
"ZAP;c-2101168" wrote:
I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.

They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.

Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.

Just to be clear, judging a sandbox mode based on repayable events is insane. Yeah, players would get bored very fast if all they could fight is a group of Stormtroopers over and over until the end of time. No one cares about fighting a bunch of weak units, much less units that we don’t have access to. They want to fight actual teams.

And as it was pointed out by a few YouTubers, it was also hypocritical. On one hand, CG says they don’t want to do a sandbox mode because not enough people would use it. On the other hand, they claim the reason their art looks so bad is because they’re trying to make sure a fraction of a percent of Android and iOS players can play the game.

The reason that doesn’t make sense is because they’re just excuses after the fact to cover up the truth. CG created strawman for the sandbox mode because the reality is they don’t want to do anything unless it can be directly monetized. That’s the reason they won’t do a sandbox mode. Period. And making the effort to get their art anywhere close to their competitors would cost time and money that they wouldn’t directly be able to profit off of.
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"Electricboa;c-2101565" wrote:
"ZAP;c-2101168" wrote:
I believe they actually said they believed, based on data from replayable events, that the number of people that would actually use it would be small, not the number of players who want it.

They know there’s a large number who want it or think they want it.

Anyway, continue on, just pointing out the distinction from your post.

Just to be clear, judging a sandbox mode based on repayable events is insane. Yeah, players would get bored very fast if all they could fight is a group of Stormtroopers over and over until the end of time. No one cares about fighting a bunch of weak units, much less units that we don’t have access to. They want to fight actual teams.

And as it was pointed out by a few YouTubers, it was also hypocritical. On one hand, CG says they don’t want to do a sandbox mode because not enough people would use it. On the other hand, they claim the reason their art looks so bad is because they’re trying to make sure a fraction of a percent of Android and iOS players can play the game.

The reason that doesn’t make sense is because they’re just excuses after the fact to cover up the truth. CG created strawman for the sandbox mode because the reality is they don’t want to do anything unless it can be directly monetized. That’s the reason they won’t do a sandbox mode. Period. And making the effort to get their art anywhere close to their competitors would cost time and money that they wouldn’t directly be able to profit off of.

Your first paragraph is spot on. However the monetization argument doesn't work because there are plenty of ways to monetize it. It leads me to believe that the issue is that they don't think we'll pay what they would want to charge (and they're probably right).

If they did give us something along the lines of a sandbox mode that was reasonably affordable for the average (mostly) FTP player, I think they worry we would actually use and enjoy it too much, cutting into play time/profit in other game modes.
Lysandrax58
6 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-2101556" wrote:
"BobcatSkywalker;c-2101538" wrote:
"Nihion;c-2101239" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2101193" wrote:
Why start a new thread on this? Im all for a sandbox, but not multiple threads on the same topic, although it makes you wonder why there is so many threads.....hhhmmm....

Because no one makes a thread just to say that don’t want one.

There are quite a few threads, but when looking at the whole player base, even one hundred threads doesn’t come close to representing everyone. I personally would use a sandbox mode, but even if they are just faking their data on players using extra tries in marquee events, I’d rather they focus on making content like new raids and game modes that give rewards.

They said they are not working on a new raid it got cancelled. we havent had a new game mode in about 2 years...

GAC doesn't count?

GAC is just GA 1.1
So i guess one and a half years since a new game mode. Enough to say you're right but pedantic to say he's wrong.