It was asked during an RSG stream a couple days ago, but it seemed to someone else that ships are dodging a lot more in the last couple weeks (roughly since the time CG went on vacation?)In the last two days I've seen Hound's Tooth dodge 4 (yes FOUR) times in one match multiple times. One of those times it dodged four times in a row. I've noticed more so that tanks are dodging more. A LOT more. So what did you guys do before you went on vacation? Because something just is not right. And I'm not just talking about the excessive amount of buffing the AI gives itself (or you gave it). Even my Biggs and HT are dodging a lot. Yes my other ships seem to dodge, but why are TANK ships dodging so much more recently?It keeps happening, daily. Everyday I see a consistent pattern of ships dodging. Like I said, for me I see tanks dodging the most. So what gives? What did you guys break, tweak, flip, sneeze on? Did you let someone who likes ships dodging be in control of the code while you're away?

HT unique and Breach is bugged. It’s supposed to inflict -25% evasion. It’s inflicting -25% accuracy. I’ll guarantee you 90% of those dodges are when someone breached is attacking.

Why on earth would they program ships to dodge more then go on vacation? I mean, really?

That's how RNG works. It's not consistent.

I'm sorry but I won't video every single battle just to show something goofy with how bugged ships are. That being said I have had a breached HT dodge my attack. It happens very infrequently but I've seen it 2 times. Believe me or not, don't care. Everything dodges more than ITF now even Biggs.

I literally cannot remember the last time I had HT, mine or theirs, dodge anything under any circumstance.Therefore HT's dodge chance is zero and no one can persuade me otherwise.

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PariahAnchorite
6 years ago
Things triggering and not triggering are always hot topics, especially when you can not see mechanics. If there was an in-game log that stated “ houndstooth needed a 7 to hit but rolled a 5” less conspiracy may happen.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
Interesting. I wasn't joking when I said I couldn't remember the last time I saw HT dodge but that's still RNG. This is more convincing...er, I mean, it would be if I understood it lol. But at least this has something behind it rather than the usual small sample sizes and/or conspiracy theories.
NikoSWGoH
6 years ago
"NicWester;c-1742119" wrote:
Hound's Tooth has a Tenacity buff if not taunting. So if you shoot first you're less likely to breach them, and they're more likely to breach you.

Oh yeah, that explains it, totally forgot that. Well now I'll focus on other ships lol

"Bulldog1205;c-1742142" wrote:
And for those that don’t believe my above post, here is literally what the code says from SWGOH.gg. Notice the wording compared to R2-D2’s unique that increases accuracy. HTs ability says evasion decreased, but that’s not how it was coded.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it says :
R2 accuracy buff = allies evasion negate +10%
HT evasion debuff = ennemy evasion negate -25%
I find R2 code way more suspicious than HT code lol
Edit: well except if "evasion negate" means more accuracy, in that case you could call that a bug yes!
DVZR
6 years ago
Yeah I have been noticing an obscene dodge rate. My biggs calling an assist against HT and missing is really noticeable. @Bulldog1205 good find. Has this been reported?

As far a HT having trouble applying breach. - if its on another HT before he has taunt that is his unique. Also if Ghost is there its harder.. Also Ghost + HT reinforce is even nastier. -25% potency and +25% tenacity. Works great together. And Biggs has 50%+ tenacity at g12 native.
BTTripleZero
6 years ago
"NikoSWGoH;c-1742498" wrote:
"NicWester;c-1742119" wrote:
Hound's Tooth has a Tenacity buff if not taunting. So if you shoot first you're less likely to breach them, and they're more likely to breach you.

Oh yeah, that explains it, totally forgot that. Well now I'll focus on other ships lol

"Bulldog1205;c-1742142" wrote:
And for those that don’t believe my above post, here is literally what the code says from SWGOH.gg. Notice the wording compared to R2-D2’s unique that increases accuracy. HTs ability says evasion decreased, but that’s not how it was coded.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it says :
R2 accuracy buff = allies evasion negate +10%
HT evasion debuff = ennemy evasion negate -25%
I find R2 code way more suspicious than HT code lol
Edit: well except if "evasion negate" means more accuracy, in that case you could call that a bug yes!

Yes, evasion negate means accuracy.

"VonZant;c-1742501" wrote:
Yeah I have been noticing an obscene dodge rate. My biggs calling an assist against HT and missing is really noticeable. @Bulldog1205 good find. Has this been reported?

As far a HT having trouble applying breach. - if its on another HT before he has taunt that is his unique. Also if Ghost is there its harder.. Also Ghost + HT reinforce is even nastier. -25% potency and +25% tenacity. Works great together. And Biggs has 50%+ tenacity at g12 native.

It’s been reported multiple times. I wasn’t the one that found this, I saw one of the bug reports made. It’s been around for a long time now. Since HT release id assume.
kieronkumar
6 years ago
Can anyone explain to me how evasion/accuracy work? I thought it worked this way:

Attacks are programmed to hit, so base 100% chance to hit
The enemy's evasion (e) is a % chance that the character will dodge the attack - so chance to hit = 100 - e
Your toon's accuracy (a) negates the same amount of the enemy evasion - so chance to hit = 100 - (e-a)

It looks like the majority of ships/toons have 2% evasion and 0% accuracy, so effectively 98% of the time hits should land.

Is that right or is there something counterintuitive at play like with potency/tenacity?
BTTripleZero
6 years ago
"FailingCrab;c-1742781" wrote:
Can anyone explain to me how evasion/accuracy work? I thought it worked this way:

Attacks are programmed to hit, so base 100% chance to hit
The enemy's evasion (e) is a % chance that the character will dodge the attack - so chance to hit = 100 - e
Your toon's accuracy (a) negates the same amount of the enemy evasion - so chance to hit = 100 - (e-a)

It looks like the majority of ships/toons have 2% evasion and 0% accuracy, so effectively 98% of the time hits should land.

Is that right or is there something counterintuitive at play like with potency/tenacity?

That is right. There is no min chance to evade. If you put an accuracy arrow on on someone they will never get evaded by someone who doesn’t have increased evasion (not relevant in ships, but just for example).
Sarcodino
6 years ago
I also agree there are something strange about dodge at the moment... Today i was using geos in fleet and they have 10*3=30% more accuracy from soldier ship, so i was really surprised when ITF dodged 2 attacks from them in the same match...

It should be imposible because this ITF have 24% dodge which is -6% against my 30% accuracy and there wasnt anything that lowered my accuraciy or something :S so incant understand it... ITF didnt have foresigh at this moment obviously.

Then in another match another ITF dodged again a geo hit (i was paying more attention at this behaviour since the previous 2 dodges). Does anyone have any clue about what could happen????
Juli494
6 years ago
The evasion thing is definitely bugged, unless somehow it can't be lowered beyond the 2% base chance (which wouldn't make sense based on the precedents). I've seen breached enemies dodge like nothing, and I'm not talking about the TF.

And about the dodge rng, my HT was very dodgy today, evaded 7 times on the same battle :D
APX-919
6 years ago
For statistical significance, many more points of data are required, like 2500+ instances. Same ships have to make the attacks on HT (the purported Dodge king now) so as not to introduce too many variables. Someone who actually knows statistics can explain it better than I but having had to read and evaluate research papers has given me a basic understanding.