Dear Players, dear Developers,I wanted for long to say this in forums. Although i believe that the developers are not paying serious attention to forums,i ll give it a try.The ship battle in Grand arena, is not working as it should and i will explain what i mean.When we have a combined battle in Grand arena, ships and characters, the ship is in the Back position, and therefore a player with very strong character team ( Revan or anything else ) can Block the way and consequently the ship battle, can be never took place, something that is not intended, when we speak for ships and characters battle.I have noticed that the majority of players do not give big attention to ships, and therefore from a combined ship and character battle, the Grand arena fails to fulfill its purpose: A battle with ships and characters, and has absolutely no difference than the battle only with characters.The solution, i propose and strongly recommend, is to put to First line of battle the ship battle, so it will become unavoidable for anyone, if wants to win, to give a first battle with ships. By putting the ships on the back zone, simply negates them, and there is no reason at all why we speak for Ships battle.Thank you and hope for this to be improved.

"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2014443" wrote:And please tell me, how many people do have the negotiator? In my server which i m first, i have seen not even one. In my shard there are negotiators over rank 100.

"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2014855" wrote:Liath ,You are either a local troller, or a selfish and you don't want to admit what is more than obvious. And you speak lies. I have in my server very powerful opponents, not even one has the negotiator.In all cases, i wont follow you from now on cause your"game"will not work on me. I dont pick up fights with trollers, hiding behind their keyboard. I m not here for this. I m one of the most famous players in Europe in WOT, named Greek_Jedi_Knight, field commander, with 96.000 battles (each battle =15 minutes) . I had a long career in forums, so i know how to avoid people like you. The reason the Arena has the mark with starships is because we should and must make a battle with starships.When the road to this is blocked, the Arena including spaceships fails in this purpose. Not all people have Revan, or Darth Revan, or anything else. Yes they are not unbeatable, but here this is not the point.We suppose to enjoy the PVP Arena in ships as well and we don't see that; instead we see AGAIN battle only with characters, and the ships are on the back, instead of being in first line and give us the pleasure with starfights battles as they should.Please developers, fix this and put the ships in the first line to give the importance they deserve.Cheers.Lol what? You think I’m lying that there are negotiators in the 100s in my shard? If your shard has zero then it’s nowhere near as strong as you think. I can’t make heads or tails of the rest of your post, it all reads as gibberish.

If they did that, people without Negotiator would lose theirs minds when met with one on the front line.

But it is mandatory. Every GAC I've been in always has the winner clearing the ship zone. If you don't clear the ship zone, you'll lose. In doesn't get much more "mandatory" than that. I have spoken.

"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2016543" wrote:To those that are pretending about "weak"roster, read again my first thread.Your first thread (found here https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/191435/star-wars-force-collections-asks-from-swgoh-to-take-over-the-legacy#latest) is a moan about there not being enough ship content for your tastes. That doesn't really speak much to the strength of your roster.Your first comment in this thread says a player with very strong character team ( Revan or anything else ) can Block the way which is a direct refutation of the idea you have a strong enough roster to full clear your opponent. The problem in your grand arena matches is that you can't full clear the character zones. You would in no way benefit from having a different location for the ship zone. You are correct in a sense that ships are pretty irrelevant to competitive GA matches as nearly all competitive players can easily clear the ship zone with a very small points differential (Some RNG involved when you have a slower negotiator but that can be mitigated with front line fleet selection). This would be the case irrespective of the fleet zone location. So the problem is in available fleet selection and team comps and the devs are actively addressing this issue by adding more Cap ships (2 so far recently, with hints of more coming from ep.9 content).

Ship battle in Grand arena isn't "working"

LiathSW
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2014443" wrote:

And please tell me, how many people do have the negotiator? In my server which i m first, i have seen not even one.

In my shard there are negotiators over rank 100.
LiathSW
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2014855" wrote:
Liath ,

You are either a local troller, or a selfish and you don't want to admit what is more than obvious. And you speak lies. I have in my server very powerful opponents, not even one has the negotiator.
In all cases, i wont follow you from now on cause your"game"will not work on me.

I dont pick up fights with trollers, hiding behind their keyboard. I m not here for this.
I m one of the most famous players in Europe in WOT, named Greek_Jedi_Knight, field commander, with 96.000 battles (each battle =15 minutes) . I had a long career in forums, so i know how to avoid people like you.

The reason the Arena has the mark with starships is because we should and must make a battle with starships.

When the road to this is blocked, the Arena including spaceships fails in this purpose. Not all people have Revan, or Darth Revan, or anything else. Yes they are not unbeatable, but here this is not the point.

We suppose to enjoy the PVP Arena in ships as well and we don't see that; instead we see AGAIN battle only with characters, and the ships are on the back, instead of being in first line and give us the pleasure with starfights battles as they should.

Please developers, fix this and put the ships in the first line to give the importance they deserve.

Cheers.

Lol what? You think I’m lying that there are negotiators in the 100s in my shard? If your shard has zero then it’s nowhere near as strong as you think.

I can’t make heads or tails of the rest of your post, it all reads as gibberish.
TheSithVicious
6 years ago
If they did that, people without Negotiator would lose theirs minds when met with one on the front line.
Nikoms565
6 years ago
But it is mandatory. Every GAC I've been in always has the winner clearing the ship zone. If you don't clear the ship zone, you'll lose. In doesn't get much more "mandatory" than that. I have spoken.
nilsg960
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2016543" wrote:

To those that are pretending about "weak"roster, read again my first thread.

Your first thread (found here https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/191435/star-wars-force-collections-asks-from-swgoh-to-take-over-the-legacy#latest) is a moan about there not being enough ship content for your tastes. That doesn't really speak much to the strength of your roster.

Your first comment in this thread says
a player with very strong character team ( Revan or anything else ) can Block the way
which is a direct refutation of the idea you have a strong enough roster to full clear your opponent.

The problem in your grand arena matches is that you can't full clear the character zones. You would in no way benefit from having a different location for the ship zone. You are correct in a sense that ships are pretty irrelevant to competitive GA matches as nearly all competitive players can easily clear the ship zone with a very small points differential (Some RNG involved when you have a slower negotiator but that can be mitigated with front line fleet selection).

This would be the case irrespective of the fleet zone location. So the problem is in available fleet selection and team comps and the devs are actively addressing this issue by adding more Cap ships (2 so far recently, with hints of more coming from ep.9 content).
Rath_Tarr0
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2017381" wrote:
...not to mention that there should be 2 fleet slots.
Yes, i have 2 almost equal very good fleets and a third average.

And what exactly would you do with 2 fleet slots? Two defensive slots requires 4 fleets - 2 defense and 2 offense - but you say you only have 3.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2018198" wrote:
"TVF;c-2018165" wrote:
Just because you are not beating stronger opponents with your cleverness doesn't mean others also aren't.

Wrong again.

It's not really. But I know it makes you feel better to say it, so I understand.
Waquira
5 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2029172" wrote:
"DarthSummers;c-2027775" wrote:
The rules of this round of GAC is clear: beat characters to get to the ships. Just because this isn't how you like it, doesn't mean that it's wrong or broken.

If you can't get to the ships, then your strategy for this game mode is wrong. You need to have viable teams to throw at what comes your way. Bastilla led Jedi can be beat by many teams, and if you can't get by them, work on something that will get you there

Show me the rules with the paragraph indicated.

It's dictated by the layout of zones.

Just because this isn't how you like it, doesn't mean that it's wrong or broken.
TheSithVicious
5 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2029577" wrote:
"SithVicious;c-2029570" wrote:
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2029565" wrote:
"SithVicious;c-2029560" wrote:
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-2029550" wrote:
"Hi Holotable Heroes!

.....And thanks to YOUR WRONGLY DESIGN of ship battles in grand arena, this SHIP BATTLE WILL NEVER TAKE PLACE (check screenshots before).
Its simply a mockery to the community.

PS to Admin:
If you remove this which is the truth, and nothing less, you will simply show that there is no free speech here, and you will never get feedback from me again in the future. And i have 2,480 fleet victories, and more than active player AND customer.

1. I’ve never not done a fleet battle in GAC, so it’s your gameplay, not game design.
2. It’s well established speech is regulated and not free, that’s why there’s terms of use and moderators.

Read better from the beginning ALL my comments.
I hate repeat my self and reply to everyone.

No need, I’ve been reading and am caught up. Your arguments just don’t make sense to me. My experience has been different than yours.

I dont care for your opinion.
Nobody asked it.
The reason i created this thread is to address it to DEVELOPERS, none else.

What were you saying about free speech?
alepalermo79
6 years ago
I think the opposite.
Negotiator is the problem today.
Putting it in the front area would negate (ok, non always but often) to players without Negotiator the access to the back area having 2 or 3 teams.