Allow me to heap on.
Our Guild was, and i emphasize WAS, 105 MM GP. Now it is down to 79 MM GP. I am 2.3 MM GP.
We started and tried a Tier 6 when we were 105 MM GP and it took a long long long time. Admittedly it was when it first stared so strategy was not yet formed, but after that we tried tier 5 and it still took a long time to the point we started get bored. So we dropped to Tier 4, but around that time we started losing our heavy hitters who dropped out to join other guilds who were attempting Heroic or doing runs faster. So it became a snowball effect. As more people left it got slower and longer so more people left. Now I think/hope we've plateaued. Thanks for that by the way guys. Because also as a result out TB and TW has now suffered. So really thanks. I can't say that enough. You've done a great job with this raid n not only destroying the fun of the raid, but also other aspects of the game and you taking longer to fix it only exasperates it. So please continue to sit back and gather more data and by all means don't try a temporary fix to make people happy.
OK sarcasm off.
Now at 79 MM GP we do Tier 3 because it takes a long time and to be honest the lower level players want to feel like they can contribute some too and I can empathize with that.
It still takes us about 2-3 days to finish. Squads used are all mentioned above. NS, Troopers, DOT squads. I actually add Bistan to my Zadar run. Sometimes you can get them stacking early if you forfeit and come back even though he dies off pretty quick so it can be worth it. I guess I could invest in better gar for him, but I won't. If he adds 3 stacks before tenacity sky rockets I'm happy.
Not many in our guild have JTR to include me. Got so tired of the cantina grind for nil shards. Many many days in a row of zero shard drops for Chewie or Han so I said forget it and focused on other Cantina toons. Maybe I'll get her one day or I'll wait until the next meta, but my RNG luck is a topic for another thread.
What do I like about it. I mean I was excited for something new. While other don't like DN it's the unpredictable nature that is the worst part and how unforgiving it is. I mean we can all see when his killer move is charged or close so we can all defend, but when he doesn't use it and the AI waits a turn or two that's garbage. It means the mechanic or intent isn't working so it's no fun. You can't build a strategy around unpredictability. Now that the newness is gone I have a bad taste in my mouth (again see how our guild was torn up) so not much I like to be honest.
What do I dislike? The grind and time sink for trash rewards. I don't expect to breeze through a raid when it's first dropped on Heroic day 1. I can solo a HPit in minutes on auto and I get petty good rewards that help my team build. I'm OK on HAAT. It takes our guild a few hours, though now losing the big hitters it can take a day, but the rewards all grow my team for the most part.
So now take a raid that takes 3 days and that's 3 days of grinding RNG each and every day and only getting to do Tier 3, never mind when we tried to grind Tier 4, 5 or 6 and after all that time spent and resources spent trying to build the teams up I get absolutely nothing that will help me get to the next tier. Trash rewards. I can now get my crummy Paploo who is a 5 star gear level 5 to gear level 6. Yay!!!!!! That should be enough to put me over the top and try Tier 4 huh? Nope.
And the worst part is that the longer you delay this fix the more frustrated people will get and they'll leave guilds and the game and as they leave their guilds others will be less able to compete too in team focused challenges so they'll drop off and you're left with pretty uniform player base as opposed to newer lower level players who will seed the future of the game.
Throw in a crummy patch and let every know it's a temp fix as a reward for our patience and shower us with rewards while you sort things out. Maybe put a timer of 30 days on it and make it rain like Pacman Jones. It will make people happy and want to at least continue running the raid in the meantime as opposed to people wanting to avoid it like the plague so when you finally roll out your fix they don't have a bad taste in their mouth.
Capital Games Team
