so what're some counters to Zader teams?

"Basti4SWGOH;917533" wrote:
From the Jedi point of view not much can be done. Only a triple Zeta team (ZQJ, Zoda, Zarris) might change it, or for sure GK who can be of value. Overall, Jedis sucks against Sith atm. Zaul basically takes them out alone.

So you run a partial synergy squad, without a zQGJ, and without targeting the person who specifically has anti-jedi capabilities, and you are surprised when you die.

"Basti4SWGOH;917533" wrote:
As written in my thread where i complain about that Zaul Meta is too strong
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/94073/how-sith-destroy-jedi-game-balance-oh-well/p1

just some feedback:

Zoda Zeta does not really help a lot. Yeah the buff is nice, but does not change the game.
Boba helps, but does not influence the round a lot.

Here a video I recorded recently (just showing how bad you run against a Zaul team).
The combination of Stealth, Crit immune, Advantage and massive Dodge + the incredible high damage of Zaul is simply to much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SABBO9-g2eY

Its just one example round, mostly it ends up a lot worse.
All chars on my team are fully G11, having high speed mods etc.

From the Jedi point of view not much can be done. Only a triple Zeta team (ZQJ, Zoda, Zarris) might change it, or for sure GK who can be of value. Overall, Jedis sucks against Sith atm. Zaul basically takes them out alone.

First off, as you mention, zQGJ is the most important Jedi Zeta. I'm on a Nov. '15 shard with several Zaul teams and Zader teams and there is a Jedi team (with zQGJ lead) that consistently finishes in the top 5.

Second, yes, Jedi's suck against Sith. Sith are the scissors to the Jedi paper. Maul specifically is designed to be a strong counter to Jedi (and, as I mention above - properly zeta'd jedi teams can still beat him anyway). General Kenobi is also a major help - and even at only 5* if he is geared to 11 (and no Zeta required).

Third, the only direct counter to Jedi are Zaul teams. zQGJ Jedi teams (especially if they are running GK) can pretty much take out any other team comp. The above mentioned Jedi team on my shard stated that he autos every battle when he adds in Zarris - and that includes against the Zaul teams.

TL, DR; If your Jedi I struggling against Zaul, you either don't have QGJ Zeta'd, you're not running GK or you simply aren't geared up as much the Zaul team. Zaul is great on offense - but definitely beatable on defense - even withJedi teams.

"Basti4SWGOH;917560" wrote:


Now:
+ I have already ZQJ now, does not change anything as well (at least against this opponent, who has indeed very good mods etc.). It is a 100% loss.

Have you tried, I don't know....., running an actual Jedi team instead of a mish-mash?

Kylo or Zylo