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Iy4oy4s
4 years agoSeasoned Newcomer
"Kyno;c-2256153" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2256148" wrote:"Kyno;c-2256144" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2256142" wrote:"Kyno;c-2256080" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2256028" wrote:"Kyno;c-2256020" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2255997" wrote:"Kyno;c-2255971" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2255960" wrote:"Kyno;c-2255954" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2255946" wrote:
So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".
The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.
I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.
There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.
So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.
We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.
How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interestmemy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?
People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.
As I said I cant speak to the details.
Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.
Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.
Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.
People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.
Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.
I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.
I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.
Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.
So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.
Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.
They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.
Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?
Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.
Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.
Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....
Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.
We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)
One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.
Maybe you should be applying for their jobs then, you seem to have this down.
...nice response...got no counter points?
You made no valid points for me to counter I have not already stated.
You think broadening thier outreach means going to the bigger content creators and not others, got it.
You seem to have all the numbers and the plan, you really should be applying for the job, you seem to know it all.
Never claimed to know it all, as I stated, I'm no marketing expert, but I have eyes.
The problem with your statement is that they only use OM and GWR...but whatever, I can see you are done with this convo, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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