It's not nice to criticize something without trying it, but since the detailed description has been published, there are lot of things to discuss.So...seriously. Who invented this new raid? Who would have thought that this will be exciting and interesting? Based on the description, it seems to me that it will be extremely complicated and extremely monotonous at the same time.When CG announced the shiny new Endor raid, I thought there would be 3-4 tiers, missions and locations from the Jedi movie. For example, yes, one of these could be the speeder bike scene, then e.g. the siege of the bunker and finally the main boss fight, against an AT-ST. Instead, I now feel like I accidentally find myself at a math conference where I don't understand anything, but I don't care neither.Why did I develop these excellent characters if I can't use their abilities and their effectiveness depends only on their stats?Why do I have to read 5 pages to even understand the mechanics of how a raid works, when visually all that happens is 3 bikers fighting 2 other bikers?Why do I have to watch the same rolling landscape background for 8 battles when RoTJ is full of beautiful locations and scenes on Endor alone?CG, where is the interesting part in this new raid? Do you think the part about farming a bunch of accuracy mods is interesting and exciting? Or do you think that we will love when the whole raid looks like a big math thesis?I am very, very disappointed and our next 1 year is not looking very good at all in terms of raids!

Krayt raid is stupid boring so i dont see s big difference with this one but i will wait to judge it until it is out.

This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams. The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent.

"Drathuk916;c-2448536" wrote:This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams. The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent. Maybe that is without the difficulty multiplayer.

"Fellah;c-2448517" wrote:Haters gonna hate.Where did you see that I hate it?I've been playing this game every day since 2016. During these years I've found a lot of thing exciting and few things bored or bad in it. So far nobody cares this part. And now comes what is perhaps more interesting: the first three raids were very well planned. We played with them for years before we got bored of them, then they became simable or easily auto playable. We got bored of the dragon raid in a few months. Now, if this Endor raid is going to be about what we see in Leia Tier 5, then we got a big problem. We'll probably get bored in a few weeks in terms of raid.So I'm not criticizing the game because I hate it, but because I quite like it and I don't want it to become boring and burned out. And I definitely don't want it to become a math calculation task without any fun.

Where is the interesting part of the new raid?

powalola227
2 years ago
Haters gonna hate.
LordDirt
New Traveler
2 years ago
Krayt raid is stupid boring so i dont see s big difference with this one but i will wait to judge it until it is out.
drathuk916
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago

This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams.

The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent.
scuba75
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
"Drathuk916;c-2448536" wrote:

This is the part that concerns me. So yeah we have 8 attempts now opposed to 5, so let’s adjust max points of 13.5 million to 8 attempts which is 1.6875 million per team. That’s a ton of speeder bikes to destroy per team. I hope they’ve adjusted points more than to adjust for more teams.

The point of asking for raids to run less frequently, for me, was to spend less time raiding not to just adjust frequency without saving time spent.

Maybe that is without the difficulty multiplayer.
Mazsola77
2 years ago
"Fellah;c-2448517" wrote:
Haters gonna hate.

Where did you see that I hate it?
I've been playing this game every day since 2016. During these years I've found a lot of thing exciting and few things bored or bad in it. So far nobody cares this part.
And now comes what is perhaps more interesting: the first three raids were very well planned. We played with them for years before we got bored of them, then they became simable or easily auto playable. We got bored of the dragon raid in a few months. Now, if this Endor raid is going to be about what we see in Leia Tier 5, then we got a big problem. We'll probably get bored in a few weeks in terms of raid.
So I'm not criticizing the game because I hate it, but because I quite like it and I don't want it to become boring and burned out. And I definitely don't want it to become a math calculation task without any fun.
prettyfly4quigu
2 years ago
"Enas007;c-2448612" wrote:
And experimental ... open minded ... well i would love to see that once from your side cg.

:facepalm:
Mazsola77
2 years ago
"Fellah;c-2448572" wrote:

Yeah, sorry, maybe my misunderstanding came from not being able to grasp how you can so precisely predict the new raid's quality before actually playing it.

That's why I started the post like this: "It's not nice to criticize something without trying it, but..."
Anyway, my judgement is based on the detailed announcement and what I saw in tier 5 of Leia event.

In terms of failed or successful experiment: unfortunately, this will not be revealed, apart from complaining here on the forum, as we will need the mk3 raid token, so we will play with this raid as well, but the metadata does not show that we are not doing it in good mood.
Alex84Swgoh
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
Isn't the speeder thing already a part of the Leia journey? So basically in the lack of imagination, they'll basically recycle one part of the Leia journey. That's how I see it. I really miss raids with multiple phases, this Kyrat raid in my opinion was a fail. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and over again, gets boring within a month. Sure every raid gets boring fast, but these one dimensional 1 phase raids scream laziness from the developer's part.
Which let's be honest has been obvious lately.

Kyrat launch was a fail
Conquest on steroids was a fail
Maraduer taking out top fleets was a fail
Leviathan launch was a fail
Jabba's bugged journey was a fail
Leia's journey is still currently a semi-fail
And the list goes on and on.

Basically they'll throw out untested content, with severe miscalculations on rewards and game economy. Which pretty much translates into them caring nothing about the player base and doing the bare minimum for profit.

At the end of the day this is a game that you can't even play, it's contents are very limited to energy, time, lack of content.
It's not like something that you can play more to advance more/faster like 95% of other games. At best you get 15-20 minutes of actual game time out of it a day.

They could easily implement practice nods to practice on your current rosters that is not limited by any kind of energy. No rewards, but we could practice battles,without actually being afraid of dropping a battle. Stuff like that would be cool and useful. It'd give us content to mess with as well.

Anyways I'm not wowed at all by the upcoming raid, sounds like an altered version of the already existing Leia journey.
tvsfrink
2 years ago
"r21stephen;c-2448717" wrote:
"Alex84swgoh;c-2448714" wrote:
Isn't the speeder thing already a part of the Leia journey? So basically in the lack of imagination, they'll basically recycle one part of the Leia journey. That's how I see it. I really miss raids with multiple phases, this Kyrat raid in my opinion was a fail. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and over again, gets boring within a month. Sure every raid gets boring fast, but these one dimensional 1 phase raids scream laziness from the developer's part.
Which let's be honest has been obvious lately.

Kyrat launch was a fail
Conquest on steroids was a fail
Maraduer taking out top fleets was a fail
Leviathan launch was a fail
Jabba's bugged journey was a fail
Leia's journey is still currently a semi-fail
And the list goes on and on.

Basically they'll throw out untested content, with severe miscalculations on rewards and game economy. Which pretty much translates into them caring nothing about the player base and doing the bare minimum for profit.

At the end of the day this is a game that you can't even play, it's contents are very limited to energy, time, lack of content.
It's not like something that you can play more to advance more/faster like 95% of other games. At best you get 15-20 minutes of actual game time out of it a day.

They could easily implement practice nods to practice on your current rosters that is not limited by any kind of energy. No rewards, but we could practice battles,without actually being afraid of dropping a battle. Stuff like that would be cool and useful. It'd give us content to mess with as well.

Anyways I'm not wowed at all by the upcoming raid, sounds like an altered version of the already existing Leia journey.

they hide behind their tags such as crumb and tusken meathead because they are ashamed of the shoddy work they do.

No it's because people are insane and would be a legit threat to the personal safety of themselves and their families.
perfidius44
Rising Newcomer
2 years ago
"r21stephen;c-2448737" wrote:
"TVF;c-2448723" wrote:
"r21stephen;c-2448717" wrote:
"Alex84swgoh;c-2448714" wrote:
Isn't the speeder thing already a part of the Leia journey? So basically in the lack of imagination, they'll basically recycle one part of the Leia journey. That's how I see it. I really miss raids with multiple phases, this Kyrat raid in my opinion was a fail. Constantly doing the same thing over and over and over again, gets boring within a month. Sure every raid gets boring fast, but these one dimensional 1 phase raids scream laziness from the developer's part.
Which let's be honest has been obvious lately.

Kyrat launch was a fail
Conquest on steroids was a fail
Maraduer taking out top fleets was a fail
Leviathan launch was a fail
Jabba's bugged journey was a fail
Leia's journey is still currently a semi-fail
And the list goes on and on.

Basically they'll throw out untested content, with severe miscalculations on rewards and game economy. Which pretty much translates into them caring nothing about the player base and doing the bare minimum for profit.

At the end of the day this is a game that you can't even play, it's contents are very limited to energy, time, lack of content.
It's not like something that you can play more to advance more/faster like 95% of other games. At best you get 15-20 minutes of actual game time out of it a day.

They could easily implement practice nods to practice on your current rosters that is not limited by any kind of energy. No rewards, but we could practice battles,without actually being afraid of dropping a battle. Stuff like that would be cool and useful. It'd give us content to mess with as well.

Anyways I'm not wowed at all by the upcoming raid, sounds like an altered version of the already existing Leia journey.

they hide behind their tags such as crumb and tusken meathead because they are ashamed of the shoddy work they do.

No it's because people are insane and would be a legit threat to the personal safety of themselves and their families.

thankyou, but people wouldnt be so irate if the game was less shoddy. and we could all live happily ever after

So a ‘legit threat to the personal safety of themselves and their families’ is their fault because the game is shoddy ? I’m not sure you’re realizing what you’re implying here. Better stay on topic.

The interesting part of the new raid is how different it is.

My concern is how they will make it so we won’t be repeating the same cycle of skills with a particular team all the time until enrage. Krayt dragon had phases in the fight that made it interesting (at least for me).