Every arena fight against CLS squads, the entire squad is going first every single battle, despite my slowest character having higher speed than almost every one of those toons. I have at least 2 that should go first in each battle, yet toons with 40-50 lower speed are getting a turn. Briggs with 166 speed should not be going before my toons with 175, 193, 210, 219, etc. It was an occasional glitch but now is every single fight. Unless CLS has a new leader ability giving them each 50+ speed, which is not listed on my CLS anywhere, this is clearly not WAI.

By Briggs do you mean Biggs? Was wedge present?Wedges unique saysWedge has +12% Offense and +9 Speed for each ally with full Health and +15 Speed for each ally without full Health (including defeated allies.) If Biggs Darklighter is present he also gains these bonuses.Please give the full details of all characters in the battle in case there are other similar abilities.

CLS has 2 zeta abilities that lead to allies gaining 5% turn meter It binds all things - allies gain 5% when Luke inflicts a debuffLeader ability - rebel allies gain 5% turn meter whenever an enemy resists a dubuff

Biggs was just an example, albeit apparently not a good one. R2, Chirrut also with 40-50 lower speed, same thing. TM gain is irrelevant as a 5% tm gain would not cause a toon to have their first turn ahead of 5 other toons with significantly higher speed. It's every CLS led squad regardless of who the team is (i.e. thrawn), and even with CLS speed being lower, negating the TM gain from debuffs possibility.

Also this is a new issue. I have fought plenty of CLS squads, never been more than a rare occurence before yesterday. Something has changed in the mechanics.

"DarthDarius;c-1511531" wrote:Biggs was just an example, albeit apparently not a good one. R2, Chirrut also with 40-50 lower speed, same thing. TM gain is irrelevant as a 5% tm gain would not cause a toon to have their first turn ahead of 5 other toons with significantly higher speed. It's every CLS led squad regardless of who the team is (i.e. thrawn), and even with CLS speed being lower, negating the TM gain from debuffs possibility. would you mind clearly posting the members on each team and the speeds of all toons. the current metas have many TM manipulation elements and they could be easily make up for a speed difference. it would also help if you could provide a video, but a written turn order (play by play) would also work.

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naraiceylob
7 years ago
By Briggs do you mean Biggs? Was wedge present?

Wedges unique says

Wedge has +12% Offense and +9 Speed for each ally with full Health and +15 Speed for each ally without full Health (including defeated allies.) If Biggs Darklighter is present he also gains these bonuses.

Please give the full details of all characters in the battle in case there are other similar abilities.
hendy_2012
7 years ago
CLS has 2 zeta abilities that lead to allies gaining 5% turn meter

It binds all things - allies gain 5% when Luke inflicts a debuff

Leader ability - rebel allies gain 5% turn meter whenever an enemy resists a dubuff
bmac801975
7 years ago
Biggs was just an example, albeit apparently not a good one. R2, Chirrut also with 40-50 lower speed, same thing. TM gain is irrelevant as a 5% tm gain would not cause a toon to have their first turn ahead of 5 other toons with significantly higher speed. It's every CLS led squad regardless of who the team is (i.e. thrawn), and even with CLS speed being lower, negating the TM gain from debuffs possibility.
bmac801975
7 years ago
Also this is a new issue. I have fought plenty of CLS squads, never been more than a rare occurence before yesterday. Something has changed in the mechanics.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"DarthDarius;c-1511531" wrote:
Biggs was just an example, albeit apparently not a good one. R2, Chirrut also with 40-50 lower speed, same thing. TM gain is irrelevant as a 5% tm gain would not cause a toon to have their first turn ahead of 5 other toons with significantly higher speed. It's every CLS led squad regardless of who the team is (i.e. thrawn), and even with CLS speed being lower, negating the TM gain from debuffs possibility.

would you mind clearly posting the members on each team and the speeds of all toons. the current metas have many TM manipulation elements and they could be easily make up for a speed difference.

it would also help if you could provide a video, but a written turn order (play by play) would also work.
RacerDejak
7 years ago
They are naturally fast chars, the TM gain from zeta not so much, but it is noticeable in natural fast chars hmm
hendy_2012
7 years ago
Turn meter gain can override speed difference. 5% turn meter is equal to about 50 speed just so you know.
almightywood
7 years ago
"Darthpedro;c-1511685" wrote:
Turn meter gain can override speed difference. 5% turn meter is equal to about 50 speed just so you know.

That's not quite right, the more speed you have, the more speed tm gain is worth.
The difference between and character speed will say how much speed that tm gain is actually worth.
hendy_2012
7 years ago
"Woodroward;c-1511688" wrote:
"Darthpedro;c-1511685" wrote:
Turn meter gain can override speed difference. 5% turn meter is equal to about 50 speed just so you know.

That's not quite right, the more speed you have, the more speed tm gain is worth.
The difference between and character speed will say how much speed that tm gain is actually worth.

No 100% turn meter is 100% turn meter it's the same for all characters it has nothing to do with there individual speed.

100% turn meter is equivalent to 1000 speed. Your character speed is how fast you climb to that mark of 1000. And 5% of 1000 is 50 speed
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"Darthpedro;c-1511728" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-1511688" wrote:
"Darthpedro;c-1511685" wrote:
Turn meter gain can override speed difference. 5% turn meter is equal to about 50 speed just so you know.

That's not quite right, the more speed you have, the more speed tm gain is worth.
The difference between and character speed will say how much speed that tm gain is actually worth.

No 100% turn meter is 100% turn meter it's the same for all characters it has nothing to do with there individual speed.

100% turn meter is equivalent to 1000 speed. Your character speed is how fast you climb to that mark of 1000. And 5% of 1000 is 50 speed

@scuba care to chime in.