ea_jesse wrote this about the yoda event nerf in the community update - 5/13/2016:While player feedback is one of our most important resources, the changes to the Yoda Event were primarily driven by player data. Over the past three iterations of the event, we saw that players were completing Stages 1 – 4 at an acceptable pace. Starting with Stage 5, the completion rate began to lag behind our initial projections. At Stage 7, the completion rate was starkly below even our most conservative estimates. The Yoda Event was never designed to have a completion rate that low. The philosophy behind the event was that, if you had built a 7-star Jedi team, the fight should still be a challenge, but not insurmountable. Coupled with the new Protection update, the data showed completion rates even lower than the previous 3 events, and as such, we needed to bring the Yoda Event in line with our original design intent.ea monitors the data and bases their descision on those statistics. Player feedback might be "one of their most important resources", but in the end its all about statistics. This gives some insight on the value of complaint threads. Do with this information as you please. I suggest you keep this in mind when you feel like you have to "help" the community and overlaod the forum with negative threads. Please dont overestimate the value of these threads. I am not against all complaint threads. I believe some issues are worth bringing under the attention of the devs aswell. But at some point adding more complaint threads is just making things worse. The devs wont use that information and the forum will become less enjoyable to use because of all the negativety. Yes we can, make the forums great again!

Its a video game. Look! A black helicopter!

There's a balance between what players want and think is fair and its intended purpose/outcome. It seems like they look at both, make a decision, then act (maybe not necessarily in our desire time frame), but it happens

"InternetSwag;408187" wrote:Well then I would like to see some 'statistics' behind the nerfing of credit events as well as gear paywalls and what 'statistics' decided they would implement unobtaniums in the gear store for real money. not sure what specific statistic you would like to see, but they will probably not provide us those statistics. Why would they ?

Wow, I guess we know who's wearing aluminum foil hats while they play.

"ChefHaze;408332" wrote:Wow, I guess we know who's wearing aluminum foil hats while they play.care to elaborate ?

statistics > complaints -- DEV COMMENT

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ABNRAS
9 years ago
Its a video game. Look! A black helicopter!
malifecar
9 years ago
There's a balance between what players want and think is fair and its intended purpose/outcome. It seems like they look at both, make a decision, then act (maybe not necessarily in our desire time frame), but it happens
emvedebe
9 years ago
"InternetSwag;408187" wrote:
Well then I would like to see some 'statistics' behind the nerfing of credit events as well as gear paywalls and what 'statistics' decided they would implement unobtaniums in the gear store for real money.

not sure what specific statistic you would like to see, but they will probably not provide us those statistics. Why would they ?
UrGirlBlewMe
9 years ago
Wow, I guess we know who's wearing aluminum foil hats while they play.
emvedebe
9 years ago
"ChefHaze;408332" wrote:
Wow, I guess we know who's wearing aluminum foil hats while they play.

care to elaborate ?
emvedebe
9 years ago
@Zemyn this thread isnt about the yoda event per se. Its about how descisions get made by the devs, and the influence forum posters have on those descisions.
UrGirlBlewMe
9 years ago
"Zemyn;408348" wrote:
I'm just gonna drop my comment from the other thread here as well. Pretty sure most people didn't compare the event before and after. I did.

Dear everyone calling people whiners regarding this event,

I've played this event twice. I earned my Yoda 7* in the second event (level cap 70, pre balancing). My team that eventually worked out was QGJ (L), Mace, Ahsoka, Lumi, and JC. All were 70 G7-8. The battles were tough-ish. I could play for a few turns before losing any one character and the secondary Jedi on Yoda's team weren't hugely intimidating. I beat him after maybe 5-6 tries against different teams when he had Eeth and Plo.

My room mate just got his Jedi up to 7 for this one. Same team. All level 73-75 and G8. We both tried dozens of times. Wiped in 1-2 rounds every time. Crazy hard. All about praying to RNGeesus.

There were serious issues this time, and I'm happy that they're getting fixed and being brought more in line with what the difficulty was before the balancing/protection/cap raise. It was always tough, but not impossible. Now we have access to higher levels and gear, why should an old challenge keep having the bar raised? It should be completable at the same level it always was.

Now, the NEXT challenge on the other hand... Bring it on!

#YourEntitlementBoresMe #StopWhiningAboutWhiningItSolvesNothing

#CanWeBalanceAFewMoreCharactersPlease

No one is arguing that any more and this post isn't about that, do you just like to hear yourself talk?
ghallmark814
9 years ago
I would imagine that the makers have insights to LOTS of statistics about the game and make adjustments based on player trends etc. :)
QuiksliverUK
9 years ago
I guarantee that the forum has very little impact. The vast majority of decision makers never look here. What will happen is the community managers (Jesse) will send a weekly summary or something to the designers and producers and occasionally an emergency alert if things really hit the fan but even in those cases the devs probably already know there's a big problem anyway.

Voice your opinions and complaints all you like here but as the OP said, don't overestimate the impact anything said here may have on actual decision making.
ghallmark814
9 years ago
"DjangoQuik;408405" wrote:
I guarantee that the forum has very little impact. The vast majority of decision makers never look here. What will happen is the community managers (Jesse) will send a weekly summary or something to the designers and producers and occasionally an emergency alert if things really hit the fan but even in those cases the devs probably already know there's a big problem anyway.

Voice your opinions and complaints all you like here but as the OP said, don't overestimate the impact anything said here may have on actual decision making.

I think the forum DOES have impact.. but remember the forum represents a pretty small part of the player base in the whole scheme of things. It in a great place to give real feedback though and I think it's apparent it is listened to.