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BattleFries's avatar
BattleFries
Rising Novice
2 years ago

Steadfast Retribution in Conquest

So, I filed a bug report, or at least I tried to, during the last Conquest, but maybe I'm wrong about thinsg and it's actually working fine. But when I face a Padme team in Conquest on Hard Mode, the modifier says that they deal damage back to my characters whenever I deal damage to them. The thing is, my characters take damage even when they use a non-damaging move. Trying to take them out with Sith Eternal Emperor tends to fail because using his ultimate - which doesn't do damage last I checked - ends up cutting his HP down to a sliver of red.

Am I misunderstanding how things work? Is this just on my end? Or is this a bug that they chose not to fix for some reason?
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  • piatz1019's avatar
    piatz1019
    Seasoned Novice
    2 years ago
    "BattleFries;d-265173" wrote:
    So, I filed a bug report, or at least I tried to, during the last Conquest, but maybe I'm wrong about thinsg and it's actually working fine. But when I face a Padme team in Conquest on Hard Mode, the modifier says that they deal damage back to my characters whenever I deal damage to them. The thing is, my characters take damage even when they use a non-damaging move. Trying to take them out with Sith Eternal Emperor tends to fail because using his ultimate - which doesn't do damage last I checked - ends up cutting his HP down to a sliver of red.

    Am I misunderstanding how things work? Is this just on my end? Or is this a bug that they chose not to fix for some reason?


    I had this happen as well, and I assumed it was from the "Amplify Agony" data disk. Using the ult inflicts a locked Deceived debuff which does in fact damage the enemy team with the AA data disk. I tested using the ult without that disk on and I didn't take damage.
  • notthatguybefor's avatar
    notthatguybefor
    2 years ago
    Ult SEEs special destroys the linked toons but then will damage any others. It’s the damage to the others which is reflected back. I’ve done this a bunch of times myself and find the best approach is to make sure JKA is linked so doesn’t trigger a bonus turn, and just hope that the TM on the ones not destroyed is low enough that you get another turn before they do and can recover some H&P. Also helps if SEE hasn’t got healing immunity.
  • Persimius's avatar
    Persimius
    New Scout
    2 years ago
    Padme is a good one to use against Padme as well, since courage damage isn't reflected.
  • BattleFries's avatar
    BattleFries
    Rising Novice
    2 years ago
    Just to be clear as to what non-damaging stuff inflicts damage upon my own SEE... Just linking a pair of characters is enough to have damage reflected. Not sure how that qualifies, as linking isn't damage or a debuff, last I checked.
  • notthatguybefor's avatar
    notthatguybefor
    2 years ago
    "BattleFries;c-2435125" wrote:
    Just to be clear as to what non-damaging stuff inflicts damage upon my own SEE... Just linking a pair of characters is enough to have damage reflected. Not sure how that qualifies, as linking isn't damage or a debuff, last I checked.


    Linking sounds like a bug. Do you have Wat trying to drop DoTs at the same time triggering other debuffs and AA? If not might be worth a bug report.
  • BattleFries's avatar
    BattleFries
    Rising Novice
    2 years ago
    Sorry for the delay. And no, I didn't have Wat Tambor out, if that makes any difference. Just SEE solo.
  • deathbringer59's avatar
    deathbringer59
    Rising Newcomer
    2 years ago
    Did you have Amplify Agony (AA) as a disk, each time you deal a debfuf, you do a certain amount of damage which in turn can reflect back. SEE uses link, does damage and if AA is on, damage is reflected
  • TargetEadu's avatar
    TargetEadu
    2 years ago
    "BattleFries;c-2435125" wrote:
    Just to be clear as to what non-damaging stuff inflicts damage upon my own SEE... Just linking a pair of characters is enough to have damage reflected. Not sure how that qualifies, as linking isn't damage or a debuff, last I checked.


    Are you sure it’s happening upon Linking? SEE’s first turn he inflicts a Decieved on a LS enemy if there are none, whcih would also trigger AA and then Steadfast Retribution.

    I like using Malak against Padme in Conquest, he ends up using Force Drain 2-3 times in a row which is enough to usually kill JKA and put a big dent in Padme/GK/whoever.
  • BattleFries's avatar
    BattleFries
    Rising Novice
    2 years ago
    I don't recall if I had AA on him or not, but it is possible. And thank you for your advice about Malak. I'll keep that in mind when the next Conquest comes around. I don't think anyone else has posted anything about this, so it is probably that I had Amplify Agony and wasn't considering it properly.

    Thank you all. Please take care and good luck with getting Taron Malicos! ^_^

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