Come on CG, please review the TW Matchmaking!!!Surely it can't be that difficult! You're taking the fun out of TW

"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. On the other hand there is no point complaining about it because as long as matchmaking is based on active GP alone this will continue.

"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2119640" wrote:"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.My guild is out matched every single TW. Beaten on mods, beaten on GL, beaten on meta characters....basically beaten on everything. We have quite alot of bloated gp players so as long as matchups are done on GP alone we always will be out matched. It's not a complaint, we have accepted it is what it is and just try and have fun anyway.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2119640" wrote:"Deany123;c-2119634" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer Let's be honest here...he really doesn't need to give any data as everyone knows it happens all the time. Let's be honest here... "everyone knows" is a classic smokescreen tactic used when your "facts" have about as much substance as said smokescreen.In this case though, it actually is an everyone knows situation. Our guild doesn't force 50/50 in TW, we just go with whoever joins, so a lot of the time we wallop our opponents, often having a 20-30M advantage over them. Or the flipside happens, where we recently faced a Top 20 GP guild and got our collective butts whooped.

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Waquira
5 years ago
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.
k3nw74
5 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...
BountyKillerCa
5 years ago
"Starl0rd;c-2122886" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...

He does this in every thread I've noticed. Must be bored with the game or something. Just ignore him, it's easier that way.
Waquira
5 years ago
"Starl0rd;c-2122886" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

You know what the point is, and the relevance of the post. Let's stop pretending we don't understand...

It's not relevant to my and Ggdjqjchsabjdj's discussion. As a response to me/us it made no sense. Quoting me/us made no sense.

Yes, it may be relevant to others, but why the quote?
Waquira
5 years ago
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

That's not what @Ggdjqjchsabjdj and I were discussing. Your quote was pointless. Your comment may be relevant to others but not to what you quoted.

But ok, thanx at least for explaining your point.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"Waqui;c-2122935" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

That's not what @Ggdjqjchsabjdj and I were discussing. Your quote was pointless. Your comment may be relevant to others but not to what you quoted.

But ok, thanx at least for explaining your point.

I quoted you asking him for data. There is lots of data to backup his claims in this thread, and the other one. I added the screenshot after the fact for extra data. Not sure how that isn't what you were discussing or how my reply was "pointless" to that discussion.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122964" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

I’m going to dispute the “more often than not”. There’s no way your evidence can be anything other than anecdotal.

Still, you guys keep posting the screenshots.

Remember my position though: I agree they should fix matchmaking to match active GP AND signed up players.

I’m not sure what you’re hoping to achieve with the screenshots. I’m already on your side. Sadly, we all know that even if they did change the matchmaking to do as I said, there will still be guilds coming on here bumping their gums about unfair matchups.

Well, I wasn't even responding to you, so idk. As for it being 'anectdotal,' I say 'not really.' I could provide the matchups for the last 12 months in my guild if you wanted (which you don't because we don't even disagree).

There will always be unfair matchups, but if they did even what you said it would minimize them, and would take away the incentive to try to do it on purpose.
k3nw74
5 years ago

"DarjeloSalas;c-2122955" wrote:
"Starl0rd;c-2122754" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:

If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.

Good luck with that.

Sorry, are you saying that example shows x 6M GP players taking on 2x 3M GP players? Because it really doesn’t.

never said that. keep up.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
5 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2123010" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2122985" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122964" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2122848" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2122829" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121615" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer

End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.

Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?

It's setup phase?

In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.

Ummmm...?

Your own claim/words:

"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.

No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?

The same as DarjeloSalas:

Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?

I mean, just read back a bit. There have been several screenshots of the matchups in this thread, and some in the other active thread.

Edit: and just to give another example

What's your point and how is it relevant to what you quote?

My point is going in with fewer players more often than not will result in a favorable matchup, and it is relevant because it is some of my data.

I’m going to dispute the “more often than not”. There’s no way your evidence can be anything other than anecdotal.

Still, you guys keep posting the screenshots.

Remember my position though: I agree they should fix matchmaking to match active GP AND signed up players.

I’m not sure what you’re hoping to achieve with the screenshots. I’m already on your side. Sadly, we all know that even if they did change the matchmaking to do as I said, there will still be guilds coming on here bumping their gums about unfair matchups.

Well, I wasn't even responding to you, so idk. As for it being 'anectdotal,' I say 'not really.' I could provide the matchups for the last 12 months in my guild if you wanted (which you don't because we don't even disagree).

There will always be unfair matchups, but if they did even what you said it would minimize them, and would take away the incentive to try to do it on purpose.

Agreed with all of that - though, surely I’m allowed to dispute something you said, even if you said it to someone else?!

Of course you are, but my screenshot was directed at that other guy, because he apparently still needs convincing.