The developers unintentionally buffed Leviathan. Now if you lose 1 turn and your opponent has a scimitar, you will never catch up with him, even if you summon a Scimitar and a Reaper.Meet the new imba:Capital Ship: LeviathanStarting lineup: B-28 Extinction-class Bomber, TIE Dagger, Fury-class InterceptorReinforcements: Scimitar

Posting the same comment twice isn’t helpful. Enemy capital ships almost always use Sabotage hangars before calling in a reinforcement. So even if they get first move AND only have Scimitar as reinforcement, you will still (almost) always get to call in Scimitar before they do, get the speed boost and win.

CG did their math correctly to prevent this workaround.Enemy wins RNG and destroys hangers which sets you back in TM and speed. They have a 43% TM advantage when you destroy their engines to bring their TM advantage down to 13% and equal speeds at 128.8. The AI will destroy your hangers on their next move. As long as you respond by bringing in the scimitar which will die upon entry, your Lev speed goes to 158.8. Since you are now faster, you will go next and have a 6% advantage. Destroy their hangers and they will bring in their Scimitar to equal the speeds but still be behind in TM. Bring in your Mk6 to kill the bomber and they will be forced to basic. Hit ult first with that 6% advantage and it’ll be an easy win.

Although I wrote a long time ago that just 1 line in Dagger skills can change everything. But developers do not read the forum. And they could ask, but they do not need it.

I know you use a translator to post in English - but it is really difficult to understand what you’re complaining about this time. What does “lose 1 turn” mean?Are you saying that you won’t catch your enemy if they start with a Scimitar? The Scimitar speed gain is on reinforcement only, so enemies starting with Scimitar are not going to get any speed boost - but you will if you call in Scimitar as a reinforcement. Or are you saying you won’t catch your enemy if they get first move and then bring in Scimitar as reinforcement? I’ve run the battle several times and I’ve not once seen the enemy bring in a reinforcement before it uses Sabotage Hangars. So you will catch and surpass them if you bring in your Scimitar at the earliest opportunity. Maybe you can clear up what your complaint is this time, but the new fleet meta is pretty much a guaranteed win on offence - if you play it correctly.

To have scimitar called as first reinforcement it would basically have to be the only reinforcement. Haven't seen that, but I don't think it would prevent you from winning.Not to mention almost every battle (couple exception) I have done opponent doesn't call a reinforcement on its 2nd turn, it is not typically till it's 3rd which by that time you will have a speed advantage and over take them in turns.

They won't catch us - Leviathan+Dagger+Scimitar

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scuba75
Legend
2 months ago
I think that is what he is missing.
With scimitar as the only reinforcement, if they do happen to get to ultimate first, (bomber should be dead) just hit auto and I bet you will still win.
You can also help make sure they have the other sabotage ready by their 2nd turn by using all abilities possible so you are getting TDs. Only time I have not seen opponent use second sabotage on 2nd turn is when I just do basics up to that point and have a few dodges. It is very rare that I am not worried.
scuba75
Legend
2 months ago
Wrong. Opponent will not call reinforcement till 3rd turn if you play it right, so it won't matter.
scuba75
Legend
2 months ago
I am not scared of that. Let dummies dummies do that set up and they will still lose on defense.
This change is good. Takes rng out of this mirror of who goes first and potentially any future fleet mirrors that could end up the same way.

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They won't catch us - Leviathan+Dagger+Scimitar

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