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And shards from a rare character (i.e. Lando) will have closer to a 1-to-1 conversion to a Stem Shard. How does the house profit? Create a transaction tax. Each Stem Shard converted would cost, call it, 10 crystals. There could be different terms if you’re converting shards from a 7-starred character. Developers could adjust over time the conversion rates depending on rarity/commonality of characters. A kicker for the house? Create a Stem Shard pack. How much would some users pay for 10 shards of their choice! The above was in mind for shards of un-activated characters or residual shards of activated characters. But what about the stars of already activated characters? Either, (i) prohibit their conversion (i.e. you’re stuck with that character) or (ii) allow to exchange shards and ‘de-star’, perhaps at a more unfavorable exchange ratio. A second proposal: full open market with a crystal transaction tax. Where users trade at their discretion with each transaction costing a fixed number of crystals per side. But let’s leave the details on that for another day. 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Wanted to share some thoughts on the art of the possible on the rumored upcoming shard exchange. I think it could help paying users, non-paying users and, of course, the house. The Stem Shard. What if you could trade-in a certain number of character shards for a Stem Shard. A Stem Shard would be a blank shard where the owner (user) would have the choice for it to be any shard of any character desired. The different values/rarities of character shards would dictate how many would be needed to exchange for a Stem Shard. So shards from a common character (i.e. Jedi Consular) would have a low trade-in value, let’s say 10-to-1 (i.e. give up 10 Jedi Consular shards in exchange for one Stem Shard). And shards from a rare character (i.e. Lando) will have closer to a 1-to-1 conversion to a Stem Shard. How does the house profit? Create a transaction tax. Each Stem Shard converted would cost, call it, 10 crystals. There could be different terms if you’re converting shards from a 7-starred character. Developers could adjust over time the conversion rates depending on rarity/commonality of characters. A kicker for the house? Create a Stem Shard pack. How much would some users pay for 10 shards of their choice! The above was in mind for shards of un-activated characters or residual shards of activated characters. But what about the stars of already activated characters? Either, (i) prohibit their conversion (i.e. you’re stuck with that character) or (ii) allow to exchange shards and ‘de-star’, perhaps at a more unfavorable exchange ratio. A second proposal: full open market with a crystal transaction tax. Where users trade at their discretion with each transaction costing a fixed number of crystals per side. But let’s leave the details on that for another day. 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It would most likely be an extremely difficult trade (10:1 or worse)
My personal balance would be a tiered approach
1. Chromium only characters could be \"re-gambled. \" Basically you turn them back in and a matching amount of shards would be returned. (With a small, reasonable crystal cost, maybe 25 or 50 max) 3. Farmable in maps 1-3 and/or \"faster\" farmed heroes would trade in with a higher per shard cost. So maybe 5:1 or higher. 4. Harder farms would trade in closer to 1:1 and I think 1:2 or 1:3 would be fair(ish) 5. \"Last seasons\" chromium only heroes could be traded also, giving f2p players access to some of the chromium only heroes, just a bit after the p2p.
The goal here is a compromise for the players and EA. You still incentivize your P2P because they would still have a reason to gamble in chromium packs and be more likely to do so knowing that they can recycle the unused shards.
For F2P players, they may potentially save up crystals for chromium knowing that it won't be a total waste. They could also farm out older chromium heroes and compete well, if a bit slower.
In my opinion, the main benefits to paying players should revolve around a faster/shorter grind and vanity options. Beyond that, the two sides need to be roughly equal.","body@stringLength":"1412","rawBody":"I doubt if trading were implemented that it would be anywhere near a 1:1 trade. It would most likely be an extremely difficult trade (10:1 or worse)
My personal balance would be a tiered approach
1. Chromium only characters could be \"re-gambled. \" Basically you turn them back in and a matching amount of shards would be returned. (With a small, reasonable crystal cost, maybe 25 or 50 max) 3. Farmable in maps 1-3 and/or \"faster\" farmed heroes would trade in with a higher per shard cost. So maybe 5:1 or higher. 4. Harder farms would trade in closer to 1:1 and I think 1:2 or 1:3 would be fair(ish) 5. \"Last seasons\" chromium only heroes could be traded also, giving f2p players access to some of the chromium only heroes, just a bit after the p2p.
The goal here is a compromise for the players and EA. You still incentivize your P2P because they would still have a reason to gamble in chromium packs and be more likely to do so knowing that they can recycle the unused shards.
For F2P players, they may potentially save up crystals for chromium knowing that it won't be a total waste. They could also farm out older chromium heroes and compete well, if a bit slower.
In my opinion, the main benefits to paying players should revolve around a faster/shorter grind and vanity options. Beyond that, the two sides need to be roughly equal. 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