I have been playing this game since the beginning and it has been a fun game. I have fully enjoyed the time I have played, even with the addition of Revan at the beginning. I figured it would just be a temporary issue and the game would balance itself out, just like Luke. But, now it is getting discouraging with “all Revan, all the time.” It has caused a large divide between those who have and those who haven’t. Even in Territory wars, this group has turned into a gate that is all but impossible to whittle down with multiple teams. It is either you smash the team or waste multiple other teams in vane attempts. The mechanics were cool, but take away skill and replace with overwhelming strength of teams. The gap with Revan is greater than Luke ever was and has hindered game play, i.e. there is only 5-6 non-Revan teams in the top 100 of my Arena. I can only imagine the annoyance of mirror-matches of the those with Revan in the top 100.Secondly, we have followed a story line that has only catered to a smaller percentage of the population. Whereas Revan was a great addition, the characters associated with the Old Republic are scantly known and provide little-to-no interest. We all grew up with Lobot and even though he is weak in this game, he is also a critical character to the cannon and worth farming for that point alone. The Old Republic, while a game, is still less known than Mara Jade or Darth Bane who would have made the Star Wars Nerds giddy with joy.I am not saying that Revan’s addition wasn’t a good idea, for I think it was. But the mechanics of gameplay change with Revan has significantly taken away from the “fun factor” of the game. Hopefully this will balance out in the near future with a greater mixture of teams.

Well, it's also time for Disney to wrap up the mess they have made, sit down, take a breath and only produce something if it actually has at least some slight quality. Sometimes it's just not how it works. Gaps between movies need to be filled, and there are at least as many people who prefer OR toons over another set of Solo characters or a 6th version of Han than those who don't. The only era that truly seems neglected is the prequels. Clone wars will have its time, but it makes more sense to give the involved faction a boost when the new season airs instead of going all in for a 10 years anniversary and have them hit rock bottom again when the final season starts. OT has few non-generic, non-duplicate toons left to add. And let's face it, I'd bet you any day that there are more OR-sympathisers than people who would like to see any more additions from the sequels. They already went one step too far with Rose.

"ewokarmageddon;d-197791" wrote:I have been playing this game since the beginning and it has been a fun game. I have fully enjoyed the time I have played, even with the addition of Revan at the beginning. I figured it would just be a temporary issue and the game would balance itself out, just like Luke. But, now it is getting discouraging with “all Revan, all the time.” It has caused a large divide between those who have and those who haven’t. Even in Territory wars, this group has turned into a gate that is all but impossible to whittle down with multiple teams. It is either you smash the team or waste multiple other teams in vane attempts. The mechanics were cool, but take away skill and replace with overwhelming strength of teams. The gap with Revan is greater than Luke ever was and has hindered game play, i.e. there is only 5-6 non-Revan teams in the top 100 of my Arena. I can only imagine the annoyance of mirror-matches of the those with Revan in the top 100.Secondly, we have followed a story line that has only catered to a smaller percentage of the population. Whereas Revan was a great addition, the characters associated with the Old Republic are scantly known and provide little-to-no interest. We all grew up with Lobot and even though he is weak in this game, he is also a critical character to the cannon and worth farming for that point alone. The Old Republic, while a game, is still less known than Mara Jade or Darth Bane who would have made the Star Wars Nerds giddy with joy.I am not saying that Revan’s addition wasn’t a good idea, for I think it was. But the mechanics of gameplay change with Revan has significantly taken away from the “fun factor” of the game. Hopefully this will balance out in the near future with a greater mixture of teams.I'm sorry, but a lot of this is complete nonsense. Addressing the most important part first, when CG did polls asking which characters people wanted added to the game, the Old Republic era was persistently dominant. The OR characters are extremely well known by a large part of the player base. Probably to far more people than those who ever cared enough about Lobot to know his name. And trying to say that the Old Republic is less well known than Darth Bane is completely absurd. The two KOTOR games are the most critically acclaimed Star Wars games ever, and have appeared on many lists of the greatest video games of all time. Darth Bane is a character who prior to a single brief appearance on a cartoon was known solely from third tier novels and comics. And Mara Jade will almost certainly never happen. She is from a time period that was completely rewritten as the result of the Disney takeover.As for the game mechanics part of the argument, that is just a temporary issue. Darth Revan will help balance it out, and they also need to rework the Rebel and Resistance squads to make CLS and JTR more viable.

Sounds good. Moving onto Kotor 2 and TOR then.

I would argue that anything Disney produced is of less interest to a igger percentage of the player base than OR. Rose Tico is the only toon -that despite having the shards for 5*- I haven't even unlocked and I'd personally prefer to never do. I understand that having so much OR is wearing down the players, but it seems one if the better choices for those dry periods when there are no movies. Let's face it, there aren't many non-generic toons from the OT to be added, and another Chewy or Han is just lazy design. The prequels could be shown some love. Perhaps they would be handled together with Clone Wars. Again, it makes more sense to have a major clone wars update when the show returns for a final season than for a one day anniversary. For some it's a milestone to have that series for ten years (despite the break by Disney), but arguably the toons would sell better when a new season is airing then on an anniversary date. New toons from Episode 9 are also coming the end of this year. Believe me, there are at least just as many people who prefer the in-between movies "gaps" with OR toons than another few characters from Solo for instance. And while many people are still wondering why we are getting KotOR and no toons from other games, the OR games are owned by EA. It's natural they are advertising them, not a Galen Marek. It's just another matter that story-wise the KotOR series tops any other SW-related video game.

I reckon we will be done with KOTOR once Revan is unleashed at the end of this month. I think most likely we’ll get some clone wars love and perhaps a new Mandalorean faction. CG seems to release 3 new things a month. It’s anyone’s guess what’s coming in April. I love the prequels. Wouldn’t mind one but if they got some attention.

Time to end Old Republic and Revan

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RSithLord
6 years ago
I would argue that anything Disney produced is of less interest to a igger percentage of the player base than OR. Rose Tico is the only toon -that despite having the shards for 5*- I haven't even unlocked and I'd personally prefer to never do.

I understand that having so much OR is wearing down the players, but it seems one if the better choices for those dry periods when there are no movies. Let's face it, there aren't many non-generic toons from the OT to be added, and another Chewy or Han is just lazy design. The prequels could be shown some love. Perhaps they would be handled together with Clone Wars.

Again, it makes more sense to have a major clone wars update when the show returns for a final season than for a one day anniversary. For some it's a milestone to have that series for ten years (despite the break by Disney), but arguably the toons would sell better when a new season is airing then on an anniversary date.
New toons from Episode 9 are also coming the end of this year.

Believe me, there are at least just as many people who prefer the in-between movies "gaps" with OR toons than another few characters from Solo for instance. And while many people are still wondering why we are getting KotOR and no toons from other games, the OR games are owned by EA. It's natural they are advertising them, not a Galen Marek. It's just another matter that story-wise the KotOR series tops any other SW-related video game.
RSithLord
6 years ago
Well, it's also time for Disney to wrap up the mess they have made, sit down, take a breath and only produce something if it actually has at least some slight quality. Sometimes it's just not how it works.

Gaps between movies need to be filled, and there are at least as many people who prefer OR toons over another set of Solo characters or a 6th version of Han than those who don't.

The only era that truly seems neglected is the prequels. Clone wars will have its time, but it makes more sense to give the involved faction a boost when the new season airs instead of going all in for a 10 years anniversary and have them hit rock bottom again when the final season starts. OT has few non-generic, non-duplicate toons left to add. And let's face it, I'd bet you any day that there are more OR-sympathisers than people who would like to see any more additions from the sequels. They already went one step too far with Rose.
ApolloRyan
6 years ago
I reckon we will be done with KOTOR once Revan is unleashed at the end of this month. I think most likely we’ll get some clone wars love and perhaps a new Mandalorean faction.

CG seems to release 3 new things a month. It’s anyone’s guess what’s coming in April. I love the prequels. Wouldn’t mind one but if they got some attention.
CazNeerg
6 years ago
"ewokarmageddon;d-197791" wrote:
I have been playing this game since the beginning and it has been a fun game. I have fully enjoyed the time I have played, even with the addition of Revan at the beginning. I figured it would just be a temporary issue and the game would balance itself out, just like Luke. But, now it is getting discouraging with “all Revan, all the time.” It has caused a large divide between those who have and those who haven’t. Even in Territory wars, this group has turned into a gate that is all but impossible to whittle down with multiple teams. It is either you smash the team or waste multiple other teams in vane attempts. The mechanics were cool, but take away skill and replace with overwhelming strength of teams. The gap with Revan is greater than Luke ever was and has hindered game play, i.e. there is only 5-6 non-Revan teams in the top 100 of my Arena. I can only imagine the annoyance of mirror-matches of the those with Revan in the top 100.

Secondly, we have followed a story line that has only catered to a smaller percentage of the population. Whereas Revan was a great addition, the characters associated with the Old Republic are scantly known and provide little-to-no interest. We all grew up with Lobot and even though he is weak in this game, he is also a critical character to the cannon and worth farming for that point alone. The Old Republic, while a game, is still less known than Mara Jade or Darth Bane who would have made the Star Wars Nerds giddy with joy.

I am not saying that Revan’s addition wasn’t a good idea, for I think it was. But the mechanics of gameplay change with Revan has significantly taken away from the “fun factor” of the game. Hopefully this will balance out in the near future with a greater mixture of teams.

I'm sorry, but a lot of this is complete nonsense. Addressing the most important part first, when CG did polls asking which characters people wanted added to the game, the Old Republic era was persistently dominant. The OR characters are extremely well known by a large part of the player base. Probably to far more people than those who ever cared enough about Lobot to know his name. And trying to say that the Old Republic is less well known than Darth Bane is completely absurd. The two KOTOR games are the most critically acclaimed Star Wars games ever, and have appeared on many lists of the greatest video games of all time.
Darth Bane is a character who prior to a single brief appearance on a cartoon was known solely from third tier novels and comics. And Mara Jade will almost certainly never happen. She is from a time period that was completely rewritten as the result of the Disney takeover.

As for the game mechanics part of the argument, that is just a temporary issue. Darth Revan will help balance it out, and they also need to rework the Rebel and Resistance squads to make CLS and JTR more viable.
Lambiza12
6 years ago
"CazNeerg;c-1799292" wrote:
"ewokarmageddon;d-197791" wrote:
I have been playing this game since the beginning and it has been a fun game. I have fully enjoyed the time I have played, even with the addition of Revan at the beginning. I figured it would just be a temporary issue and the game would balance itself out, just like Luke. But, now it is getting discouraging with “all Revan, all the time.” It has caused a large divide between those who have and those who haven’t. Even in Territory wars, this group has turned into a gate that is all but impossible to whittle down with multiple teams. It is either you smash the team or waste multiple other teams in vane attempts. The mechanics were cool, but take away skill and replace with overwhelming strength of teams. The gap with Revan is greater than Luke ever was and has hindered game play, i.e. there is only 5-6 non-Revan teams in the top 100 of my Arena. I can only imagine the annoyance of mirror-matches of the those with Revan in the top 100.

Secondly, we have followed a story line that has only catered to a smaller percentage of the population. Whereas Revan was a great addition, the characters associated with the Old Republic are scantly known and provide little-to-no interest. We all grew up with Lobot and even though he is weak in this game, he is also a critical character to the cannon and worth farming for that point alone. The Old Republic, while a game, is still less known than Mara Jade or Darth Bane who would have made the Star Wars Nerds giddy with joy.

I am not saying that Revan’s addition wasn’t a good idea, for I think it was. But the mechanics of gameplay change with Revan has significantly taken away from the “fun factor” of the game. Hopefully this will balance out in the near future with a greater mixture of teams.

I'm sorry, but a lot of this is complete nonsense. Addressing the most important part first, when CG did polls asking which characters people wanted added to the game, the Old Republic era was persistently dominant. The OR characters are extremely well known by a large part of the player base. Probably to far more people than those who ever cared enough about Lobot to know his name. And trying to say that the Old Republic is less well known than Darth Bane is completely absurd. The two KOTOR games are the most critically acclaimed Star Wars games ever, and have appeared on many lists of the greatest video games of all time.
Darth Bane is a character who prior to a single brief appearance on a cartoon was known solely from third tier novels and comics. And Mara Jade will almost certainly never happen. She is from a time period that was completely rewritten as the result of the Disney takeover.

As for the game mechanics part of the argument, that is just a temporary issue. Darth Revan will help balance it out, and they also need to rework the Rebel and Resistance squads to make CLS and JTR more viable.

Give that man a bells, he knows what's up.
glitteroutlaw
6 years ago
darth revan balancing light revan is not good enough the rest of the Roster need to have a shot, so they need nerf light revan. unless they plan to update every toon AGAIN which btw were still waiitng on them finishing the first wave

(Jaws, old jedis, Tuskans, genosians)
CazNeerg
6 years ago
"GlitterOutlaw;c-1799319" wrote:
darth revan balancing light revan is not good enough the rest of the Roster need to have a shot, so they need nerf light revan. unless they plan to update every toon AGAIN which btw were still waiitng on them finishing the first wave

(Jaws, old jedis, Tuskans, genosians)

They don't need to update everything. Only those who synergize with other triple zeta leads. Squads without a triple zeta lead *shouldn't* be competitive with those that do have one. If they were, there would be no reason to invest the time and/or money necessary to unlock triple zetas.

As for Jedi, they don't need any more updating for now. They are the single most powerful faction tag in the game right now, by a wide margin.
ThisYeezy
6 years ago
"CazNeerg;c-1799292" wrote:
"ewokarmageddon;d-197791" wrote:
I have been playing this game since the beginning and it has been a fun game. I have fully enjoyed the time I have played, even with the addition of Revan at the beginning. I figured it would just be a temporary issue and the game would balance itself out, just like Luke. But, now it is getting discouraging with “all Revan, all the time.” It has caused a large divide between those who have and those who haven’t. Even in Territory wars, this group has turned into a gate that is all but impossible to whittle down with multiple teams. It is either you smash the team or waste multiple other teams in vane attempts. The mechanics were cool, but take away skill and replace with overwhelming strength of teams. The gap with Revan is greater than Luke ever was and has hindered game play, i.e. there is only 5-6 non-Revan teams in the top 100 of my Arena. I can only imagine the annoyance of mirror-matches of the those with Revan in the top 100.

Secondly, we have followed a story line that has only catered to a smaller percentage of the population. Whereas Revan was a great addition, the characters associated with the Old Republic are scantly known and provide little-to-no interest. We all grew up with Lobot and even though he is weak in this game, he is also a critical character to the cannon and worth farming for that point alone. The Old Republic, while a game, is still less known than Mara Jade or Darth Bane who would have made the Star Wars Nerds giddy with joy.

I am not saying that Revan’s addition wasn’t a good idea, for I think it was. But the mechanics of gameplay change with Revan has significantly taken away from the “fun factor” of the game. Hopefully this will balance out in the near future with a greater mixture of teams.

I'm sorry, but a lot of this is complete nonsense. Addressing the most important part first, when CG did polls asking which characters people wanted added to the game, the Old Republic era was persistently dominant. The OR characters are extremely well known by a large part of the player base. Probably to far more people than those who ever cared enough about Lobot to know his name. And trying to say that the Old Republic is less well known than Darth Bane is completely absurd. The two KOTOR games are the most critically acclaimed Star Wars games ever, and have appeared on many lists of the greatest video games of all time.
Darth Bane is a character who prior to a single brief appearance on a cartoon was known solely from third tier novels and comics. And Mara Jade will almost certainly never happen. She is from a time period that was completely rewritten as the result of the Disney takeover.

As for the game mechanics part of the argument, that is just a temporary issue. Darth Revan will help balance it out, and they also need to rework the Rebel and Resistance squads to make CLS and JTR more viable.

The Darth Bane trilogy is considered quintessential reading for the Star Wars Legends universe and delves deep into the history of the Sith. They're written by Drew Karpyshyn who was the senior writer for the KOTOR games and the Revan book so I'm not sure where the 'third rate' comment is coming from.
AkSilvers
6 years ago
Sounds good. Moving onto Kotor 2 and TOR then.
CazNeerg
6 years ago
"ThisYeezy;c-1799357" wrote:

The Darth Bane trilogy is considered quintessential reading for the Star Wars Legends universe and delves deep into the history of the Sith. They're written by Drew Karpyshyn who was the senior writer for the KOTOR games and the Revan book so I'm not sure where the 'third rate' comment is coming from.

I own them all in hardcover. I enjoy them. But Star Wars novels are already a niche market, and Star Wars novels that don't feature any Skywalkers/Solos have an even more niche audience. The idea that there are more people playing SWGOH who are big enough fans of Darth Bane to spend money than there are people who are big enough fans to spend money on Old Republic characters is totally laughable.