Time to "movie farm"

"cannon_fodder;c-1336802" wrote:
@Kevern_Zaksor It was intended to be a bit of hyperbole. But at a 33% drop rate, two months would be enough time to unlock it. This is probably also about how long it will be between the Falcon going farmable and Rey's journey. The point I was trying to make was that anyone whining about the Falcon being involved in Rey's Journey but ridiculing others for whining about BB-8 and the First Order farm is a bit a hypocritical. I have no dog in this fight so to speak.

It was intended to be hyperbole, but was instead irrelevant. There is a pattern of past events making it highly likely that some combination of FO, Res, or Veteran Smugglers will be required at 5-7*. Nobody can say definitively, but it fits the pattern of many, many past events.

No event has ever required a ship to unlock a character, and no legendary/heroic character has ever allowed an unlock using any toons under the star level of the character being unlocked. So saying that we shouldn't be surprised needing a 4* ship for a 7* character (totally unprecedented) is the same as needing a full team of the characters from their movie, faction, or opposing faction (how every event ever has worked) is nonsense. A change that radical to events would take people by surprise, and justifiably so. It could happen. But you're drawing a false equivalence.

And saying that a 6.5 month farm that's been available to farm for 1 month is the same as a 2.2 month farm that has been available for 2 years is also nonsense.

Interesting ^

"JacenRoe;c-1336821" wrote:

"cannon_fodder;c-1336802" wrote:
@Kevern_Zaksor It was intended to be a bit of hyperbole. But at a 33% drop rate, two months would be enough time to unlock it. This is probably also about how long it will be between the Falcon going farmable and Rey's journey. The point I was trying to make was that anyone whining about the Falcon being involved in Rey's Journey but ridiculing others for whining about BB-8 and the First Order farm is a bit a hypocritical. I have no dog in this fight so to speak.

It was intended to be hyperbole, but was instead irrelevant. There is a pattern of past events making it highly likely that some combination of FO, Res, or Veteran Smugglers will be required at 5-7*. Nobody can say definitively, but it fits the pattern of many, many past events.

No event has ever required a ship to unlock a character, and no legendary/heroic character has ever allowed an unlock using any toons under the star level of the character being unlocked. So saying that we shouldn't be surprised needing a 4* ship for a 7* character (totally unprecedented) is the same as needing a full team of the characters from their movie, faction, or opposing faction (how every event ever has worked) is nonsense. A change that radical to events would take people by surprise, and justifiably so. It could happen. But you're drawing a false equivalence.

And saying that a 6.5 month farm that's been available to farm for 1 month is the same as a 2.2 month farm that has been available for 2 years is also nonsense.

I agree it's comparing Apples and spaceships.
So far off from being the same thing they shouldn't be used in same sentence.
Only one event has ever required 7* to unlock( cls) .
No event has ever required a pay to play toon or ship.
There was not a lot of time for Phoenix for thrawn but only needed 5* to unlock.
5* to 7* is 185 shards.
Only 145 shards needed to 5*
Bb8 harder to farm than r2
Resistance harder to farm than lea,sth,old ben, farm boy luke.
If Rey requires finn,bb8,and vets it would be more than twice as hard as ant toon has ever been in the game to UNLOCK.

"Goober1_;c-1336845" wrote:

If Rey requires finn,bb8,and vets it would be more than twice as hard as ant toon has ever been in the game to UNLOCK.

... which is appropriate for what will be the strongest toon in the game. :wink:

"cannon_fodder;c-1336870" wrote:
@JacenRoe

So let me get this straight - because it's never happened before means it can't happen in the future? Just like a 7* only unlock for CLS was completely and totally expected prior to it happening? Because of the precedent that was already there? Calling any supposition about what's required nonsense is itself nonsense unless you're the one making the rules.

Actually, they announced before hand that CLS would be unlocked through a new type of event called The Hero's Journey. Then, they outlined exactly how this event would play out and what to expect from similarly titled events in the future. Skip ahead to the future. Now, they are announcing a similarly titled event for which there is precedence.

"Goober1_;c-1336094" wrote:
Upping the ante a little bit more?
More than dbl the shards is a little?

It's not double the shards. You needed 5 characters for Thrawn vs 2 we are talking about here. The overall number of shards that would need to be acquired from things that had just become farmable is comparable.

"cannon_fodder;c-1336870" wrote:
@JacenRoe
So let me get this straight - because it's never happened before means it can't happen in the future? Just like a 7* only unlock for CLS was completely and totally expected prior to it happening? Because of the precedent that was already there? Calling any supposition about what's required nonsense is itself nonsense unless you're the one making the rules.

If you read what I said then you would note where I said that what you were suggesting could happen. But it's a false equivalency to put all speculation on equal footing with a pattern that has been followed many times over a long period of time.

Nobody knows anything for certain. But I would give more credibility for instance to characters that interacted with Rey being required to get her than Tuskans being required. One fits the pattern. The other doesn't. And for the first time requiring a ship for a toon, or requiring anything at a lower star than the character you are unlocking are both against the patter that has been set.

That being said even the most insanely wild guess can be right, and the best educated guess with a body of evidence to support it can be wrong. But one prevails more often than the other. Your guess about a ship being needed is not completely without logic. It's not totally unfounded. But it's not most likely according to the pattern of evidence we have seen so far. I have no issue with suggesting that as an idea. But suggesting that any idea is of equal likelihood is silly. And suggesting that people shouldn't be surprised by something less probable happening is also silly.

Also you are in fact throwing shade at people right now. You were throwing shade at people who made smart choices, and pointed out others had the same opportunities. I will most definitely be sympathetic any time a harsh, unexpected requirement takes us by surprise in this game, or newer players see end game content they are VERY far away from, and can't reasonably expect to reach any time soon. But if a very long time player fails to meet a blatantly obvious requirement that they had years to prepare for, then that's on them. Don't blame the devs for that. That kind of whining drounds out actually constructive criticism that could make a positive change to the game.

"cannon_fodder;c-1336917" wrote:
@JacenRoe Well stated!

+1

Personally, I don't think you'll need the falcon AND Veteran Smugglers.

(That being said I am farming it...)

I missed cls, even though I've been playing for 20 months.
I never touched old ben.
Not devs fault, cls requirements were fair and consistent with the level of importance cls is. I have no grounds to complain.
However, if 7* vets and or 7* falcon are required for Rey, there will be complaints and they would be legitimate