Here is my feedback on ships:1. Ships are important. It is at least the second most important part of the game if not the most important, because you earn a lot of crystals in the top 5 and you can buy zeta mats with the currency.2. There are very few viable ships which leads to 3. Ships are very annoying because a) in developed shards in the top 20 there is 90% mirror matches and b) it basically boild down to who applies more target locks and c) if your TFP dodges a good amount of times.So basically ships are very important and at the same time the single most rng dependant part of the game ("50% chance to attack again", "70% chance to inflict target lock", "4x % chance to dodge" and so on.) which makes it a nightmare. Just to illustrate how extremely rng dependant it is: I fought my shardmate the last four days every day and won easily. Today I tried it six(!) times and lost every time. It's ridicoulous. He assured me he hasn't changed a single thing and neither did I.So my biggest wish is: Do something that RNG is not the most deciding factor in mirror matches.

"phinfan309;c-1455789" wrote:We need more ships and their equivalent of mods, which they have a slot for. This will help make it less rng dependent. My ships aren't getting me in the top 20 so I only do my daily battle. I don't like them that much for the same reasons you pointed out. At this point I dont care how they do it but they need to really dampen the effect of RNG in ships. I finfish top 5 every day but the rng dependancy is really annoying and killing the fun. For the longest time ships are not treated as any priority. I mean the bug where you couldnt chose a specific ship on the opponents lineup was there for months before they fixed it. And now with the crystals it is at least the second most important part of the game.

I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.3) Same thing applies to capital ships.4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage.

"Hazakar;c-1459273" wrote:I gathered stats for a week of ship battles and found a few things:1) enemy tie fighters dodge 8/10 times, my tie fighter dodges 5/10 times2) first move appears to be random. I have higher crew power, faster speed, higher ship power in several battles I moved third or fourth in.3) Same thing applies to capital ships.4) RNG appears to be streaky. Battles I lose, I lose badly with no rolls appearing to 'go my way'.Based on this I have requested a refund from Apple of all money I spent on crystals since the launch of ships due to in game rewards not as promised. I spend crystals (money) on a ship only to have random results instead of the promised advantage. TROLL ACTIVATE. If both of you spent money, then both of you got the promised advanatge, therefore no advantage, therefore RNG is okay. @Hazakar

"ProximaB1_;c-1461532" wrote:I know the easiest answer isn't always the best answer. But in this case I think it is. So here is my solution to all these problems. Eliminate ships from swgoh. Um no. This is horrible honestly why would you even suggest it ?I'm only asking because the majority of people who want ships gone are people who decided they wanted nothing to do with ships and then crystals were added and then...rage ensued because they were missing out.So if there is another reason feel free to share...ships could have an amazing dynamic great raid potential and is fun to theorycraft.On a side note the OP is just flat wrong on a number of accounts. (Every single ship in the game is viable under the right capital ship)

To reiterate #2 is flat out wrong almost every ship is viable if used correctly.ITF dodge is frequently posted as OP...it's a joke if you deal with it properlyBiggs Regen same thing. They are easily dealt with if you look at the opposing fleet before you go in and select the ships that can mop the floor with themIf all else fails and you can't win at ships the new answer is get thrawn lol.Find ships with ITF, reaper and falcon in them...use fast ships kill them quick easy win

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hilikusrt
7 years ago
"Mr_Sausage;c-1469097" wrote:
Too much RNG in ships? How does that even make sense? This whole game is RNG based. Regular arena is no different. Do ships have a separate RNG that is designed to give ships “too much”?

Sigh. Yes, rng plays a role in every part of the game. In ships it plays a more dominant role though than in the other arena. And it has three main reasons imho:
- ships are more fragile, they survive less hits.
- Reaper punishes the death of a ship so hard.
- the stuff that is rng based (applying TL and your TFP dodging) is so important, it is match making important.

"Dk_rek;c-1469480" wrote:

Everyone might be using the same ships but they would still be able to win with any other 5 ships...
as long as you don’t show proof, I call BS on that.
MrSausage248
7 years ago
"hilikus;c-1471331" wrote:

- Reaper punishes the death of a ship so hard.

Absolutely. All of my matches come down to who’s Tie Reaper dies first.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
Well I guess the good news is you don't farm an entire squad up to G12 only to find they're unusable because the meta shifted.
Technopwns
7 years ago
"hilikus;d-158133" wrote:
Here is my feedback on ships:

1. Ships are important. It is at least the second most important part of the game if not the most important, because you earn a lot of crystals in the top 5 and you can buy zeta mats with the currency.
2. There are very few viable ships which leads to
3. Ships are very annoying because a) in developed shards in the top 20 there is 90% mirror matches and b) it basically boild down to who applies more target locks and c) if your TFP dodges a good amount of times.

So basically ships are very important and at the same time the single most rng dependant part of the game ("50% chance to attack again", "70% chance to inflict target lock", "4x % chance to dodge" and so on.) which makes it a nightmare.
Just to illustrate how extremely rng dependant it is: I fought my shardmate the last four days every day and won easily. Today I tried it six(!) times and lost every time. It's ridicoulous. He assured me he hasn't changed a single thing and neither did I.

So my biggest wish is: Do something that RNG is not the most deciding factor in mirror matches.

What’s wrong with RNG? I just faced a g9 tie pilot that dodged 5x and has no mods and of course, my tie pilot took the two hits and died. Awesome.
hilikusrt
7 years ago
So I am guessing you’re being sarcastic? But just to make sure: if every battle boils down to rng, what’s the point in playing manually or playing at all? It’s just plain boring and annoying, if the rng plays too big a part.

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