I think that the way GP is calculated is contributing to the issues some are seeing in TW. As an example, my guild and our opponent are very nearly matched on GP (right around 130m). Because of how differently our guilds' platoons are structured they should completely wipe us out this TW though. While my guild has almost 200 more 7-star characters, their guild has almost 300 more gear 12 and gear 11 characters! They also have 53 more zeta's than we do.The issue is that my guild has spread around the gear and spent more time farming character shards for PvE than our opponent who focused on gear. With more total GP on characters under 15k we are fat bottomed. They are top heavy with more total GP on characters over 15k. Despite this overwhelming imbalance our two guilds have the same GP. If the GP were being calculated to reflect this power difference we probably wouldn't have been matched.

GP / character power has never been a good indication of strenght, not for single characters, nor for rosters or even entire guilds. It will never be fair though and one could argue that having a good strenght/gp ratio is just good strategy on their part. My guild is usually outmatched as far as gear goes. We're long term, mostly f2p and very light spenders with inflated GP for LS TB (wich was a good choice at the time). Matchmaking wise that isn't doing us any favours. It is what is it.

"JoeSolo;c-1436471" wrote:"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:"leef;c-1436363" wrote:"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:The calculation is not only based on GP.please elaborate.@leef it's not much but here it is."CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following: Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participateI don’t think this is completely true. I looked at my guilds active GP before I joined and then after I joined. It added my entire inventory GP, not just those units that can participate.Add: Unless the matchmaking is doing it behind the scenes. I’d like to point out that I’m not complaining about it being broken. How can one really say it’s broke if you don’t even know how it’s suppose to work? If someone would explain it, maybe some of these complaints would cease. All we know is that it’s a variety of factors. Very vague.While I am not sure of the reasoning, I would speculate that they will never share the details of matching to prevent guilds from gaming the system.And the complaints never cease......never.

"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:"leef;c-1436363" wrote:"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:The calculation is not only based on GP.please elaborate.@leef it's not much but here it is."CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following: Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participateClear as mud

The calculation is not only based on GP.

"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:The calculation is not only based on GP.please elaborate.

TW imbalance stems from the GP formula

emvedebe
7 years ago
GP / character power has never been a good indication of strenght, not for single characters, nor for rosters or even entire guilds.
It will never be fair though and one could argue that having a good strenght/gp ratio is just good strategy on their part. My guild is usually outmatched as far as gear goes. We're long term, mostly f2p and very light spenders with inflated GP for LS TB (wich was a good choice at the time). Matchmaking wise that isn't doing us any favours. It is what is it.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"JoeSolo;c-1436471" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:
"leef;c-1436363" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.

@leef it's not much but here it is.

"CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:

While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following:

Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participate

I don’t think this is completely true. I looked at my guilds active GP before I joined and then after I joined. It added my entire inventory GP, not just those units that can participate.

Add: Unless the matchmaking is doing it behind the scenes. I’d like to point out that I’m not complaining about it being broken. How can one really say it’s broke if you don’t even know how it’s suppose to work? If someone would explain it, maybe some of these complaints would cease. All we know is that it’s a variety of factors. Very vague.

While I am not sure of the reasoning, I would speculate that they will never share the details of matching to prevent guilds from gaming the system.

And the complaints never cease......never.
BosshTheUsurper
7 years ago
"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:
"leef;c-1436363" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.

@leef it's not much but here it is.

"CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:

While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following:

Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participate

Clear as mud
NyKynoe
7 years ago
The calculation is not only based on GP.
emvedebe
7 years ago
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.
NyKynoe
7 years ago
"leef;c-1436363" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.

@leef it's not much but here it is.

"CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:

While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following:

Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participate
SomeSignNaw
7 years ago
For whatever reason I’m afraid that stars are overvalued here, the same way they are for GP.

Please convince me otherwise :)
JoeSolo10
7 years ago

"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:
"leef;c-1436363" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.

@leef it's not much but here it is.

"CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:

While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following:

Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participate

I don’t think this is completely true. I looked at my guilds active GP before I joined and then after I joined. It added my entire inventory GP, not just those units that can participate.

Add: Unless the matchmaking is doing it behind the scenes. I’d like to point out that I’m not complaining about it being broken. How can one really say it’s broke if you don’t even know how it’s suppose to work? If someone would explain it, maybe some of these complaints would cease. All we know is that it’s a variety of factors. Very vague.
AnakinKyloRey
7 years ago
Reality is, you can have 2 people with the same GP and their rosters could be vastly different.

For TBs, the goal was to "inflate" GP by activating toons, taking them to level 50 and sticking 5-dot mods on them. Those toons will not help you very much (if at all) in TWs.

For TWs, its about having a roster of viable toons who are well geared and modded and have their abilities maxed out as much as possible (ie. Omega and Zeta mats).

It took a bit of time for our guild to adjust to TWs, but we finally got our first win this last TWs after working on building up select toons for teams that are useful in TWs.
emvedebe
7 years ago

"Kyno;c-1436374" wrote:
"leef;c-1436363" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1436359" wrote:
The calculation is not only based on GP.

please elaborate.

@leef it's not much but here it is.

"CG_Kozispoon;d-152776" wrote:

While some of the community has expressed concern over matchmaking, we’d like to detail the following:

Matchmaking is based on a variety of factors including the GP of units that can participate

thanks, not exactly what i was hoping for though ;)

"Naw;c-1436432" wrote:
For whatever reason I’m afraid that stars are overvalued here, the same way they are for GP.

Please convince me otherwise :)

That would be typical, one of the worst metrics that could be used for matchmaking.