I'm not entirely sure how CG determines matchmaking in this game, but being put against a guild with 200 more G13 than us isn't a reasonable pairing. Also being paired against guilds that have 5 galactic legend Rey's when we have none is incredibly overkill. Our members see that and immediately lose all will to continue fighting in TW.

In theory, yes, but with GAC came the streamlining of peoples rosters, the power of galactic legends heavily outclasses their GP value and so do relics. The information to refine this game mode in order to make a better experience for everyone involved is there, no theory about it. Practically, using information that scripts like DSR bot pull up is definitively more accurate for matchmaking than saying "you're 215m GP, they're 225m GP, close enough."It also doesnt explain why we have been paired up with guilds almost 20m more than us over our last few TW's. Again, using scripts that are in the public domain are poit for point more accurate than measuring GP. This has been highlighted by the community countless of times and the amount of work needed to implement this is next to none, it's all there.

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?

There are posts on this forum dating as far back as 2018 with people expressing their intentions to exploit the GP-based matchmaking. If anything, now is the time that it needs to be addressed and reworked. The game mode needs to update concurrently with the addition of new character tiers, new power scaling etc. GP was never an accurate representation, and now it's worse than it ever has been.

I have been tracking our TW data since Sept 3 2019. During that time frame we have gone 18 -15, but as we have climbed up the GP ladder, the TW matchmaking has been ridiculuously off. Since January 27, we are 3-12 and of those 15 matches, 8 have been epic mismatches, including 4 of the last 5 (when we crossed into the 200M GP Tier). Our current match-up is more of the same. It's not that we don't have quality rosters or strong participation. We do well on TBs, (27 on DS Geo, 11 on LS for 220M in GP). We just lack the game breaking GL toons and still need another turn at GAS to even out our rosters more. But since these top two tiers are the waters for the whales, we will continue to see these mismatches based on GP.

"Kyno;c-2107056" wrote:"Wagg_Dohana;c-2107012" wrote:"UdalCuain;c-2107010" wrote:"Wagg_Dohana;c-2107007" wrote:"Kyno;c-2107005" wrote:"Wagg_Dohana;c-2106998" wrote:This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?how many players joined?We were a full 50/50 last TW, which is the matchup in the screenshotYou might have been, but your opponents could have had less than 50 sign up. This is what I'm getting at. They may have had only 40 or 45 sign up, which according to GP matchmaking would be fair, right? But not when they have multiple GL Rey on defence and our guild has no galactic legends at all. This is what I mean by GP matchmaking is outdated and needs to be updated in accordance to the current state of the game.at every juncture like this in the game, this sentiment gets brought up. What counter teams is your guild building? You may not be the most flexible, but that doesn't mean you can't plan and work towards goals that will keep you in the running. you can either accept the data tells a different story or continue to pretend their isn't a better way to match guilds for TW. The long grind of GL characters and the 80 day gap in playing for GAS makes it hard to catch-up. We take the lessons from the guilds that beat us. Adjust our defensive strategy. Farm the teams that help TW. We do all the things that we should to get better. Even with all those things being true, we can't make a match-up like the screen shot shared competitive.

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27 Replies

WaggShore
5 years ago
An easy way to rectify this would be to update the matchmaking system based on open source material like DSR bot, which compares the amount of particular units each guild has, how many units at respective gear levels, the secondary speed stats on mods. All of this is out there and free use in the public domain, and it could easily be used to make the matchmaking system more accurate and generate fair fights
NyKynoe
5 years ago
unfortunately it is highly unlikely they will take away an advantage that players pay for by only matching them against players who have a similar advantage.

matchmaking is based on GP, GP is a pure measure of how much investment someone has in their roster. Where they used that investment and how they shaped their roster is player dependent. In theory its a good system for matching and allows the players choices to determine how effective they are in their "weight class".
WaggShore
5 years ago
In theory, yes, but with GAC came the streamlining of peoples rosters, the power of galactic legends heavily outclasses their GP value and so do relics. The information to refine this game mode in order to make a better experience for everyone involved is there, no theory about it. Practically, using information that scripts like DSR bot pull up is definitively more accurate for matchmaking than saying "you're 215m GP, they're 225m GP, close enough."
It also doesnt explain why we have been paired up with guilds almost 20m more than us over our last few TW's. Again, using scripts that are in the public domain are poit for point more accurate than measuring GP. This has been highlighted by the community countless of times and the amount of work needed to implement this is next to none, it's all there.
WaggShore
5 years ago

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?
Rebmes
5 years ago
At the same time it's not that much fun winning against a much weaker opponent.
WaggShore
5 years ago
There are posts on this forum dating as far back as 2018 with people expressing their intentions to exploit the GP-based matchmaking. If anything, now is the time that it needs to be addressed and reworked. The game mode needs to update concurrently with the addition of new character tiers, new power scaling etc. GP was never an accurate representation, and now it's worse than it ever has been.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2106998" wrote:

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?

how many players joined?
WaggShore
5 years ago
"Kyno;c-2107005" wrote:
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2106998" wrote:

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?

how many players joined?

We were a full 50/50 last TW, which is the matchup in the screenshot
ChristophIV
Hero+
5 years ago
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2107007" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2107005" wrote:
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2106998" wrote:

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?

how many players joined?

We were a full 50/50 last TW, which is the matchup in the screenshot

You might have been, but your opponents could have had less than 50 sign up.
WaggShore
5 years ago
"UdalCuain;c-2107010" wrote:
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2107007" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2107005" wrote:
"Wagg_Dohana;c-2106998" wrote:

This is from our last TW. As you can see, GP is not close, gear levels of units aren't close, look at the difference in mods. But this is WAI?

how many players joined?

We were a full 50/50 last TW, which is the matchup in the screenshot

You might have been, but your opponents could have had less than 50 sign up.

This is what I'm getting at. They may have had only 40 or 45 sign up, which according to GP matchmaking would be fair, right? But not when they have multiple GL Rey on defence and our guild has no galactic legends at all. This is what I mean by GP matchmaking is outdated and needs to be updated in accordance to the current state of the game.