Edit: Two points to make here. Point 1 most will not agree with, but clearly that's subjective. Point 2 will likely garner much more support.Point 1: Since Uniques can no longer apply after death, it's high time we take a serious look at all the Uniques applying after such. Boba, SRP, Old Ben to name a few. Rules are rules, and we should be consistent. And why does Zader's Leader Ability for debuffs end upon his death? That should be a Unique.Point 2: Leader Ability: If a Leader dies his Leader ability should end, IMO. However, the next in command's (based on position on the battle screen) should kick in. Only way to be consistent and fair, plus the gameplay would be insanely enjoyable with the amount of real strategy involved (which is what this game should be about, first and foremost), and not just about muscling your way through.

"Morpheus;c-1075013" wrote:Team should be demoralized when leader dies... Gives tankier leads a bit more value and adds some balance to Rex lead. Unless lead is of a different faction/side, then no morale penalty Why should they be demoralized? In the past have people not rallied in the face of their leaders death? One could argue the team should be stronger after the leaders die.

Except his effect is apon death.

Somehow, there will always exception. Consistency is something rare, and only have by..Btw, anyway, can we talk about SRP who have similar effect. :flushed:

"Grpeephole303;c-1074810" wrote:Except his effect is apon death.They're dead! If we are going to talk in terms of reality, what dead individual can apply an ability after such?The argument from the community has been Uniques "persisting" after Death. However, the Devs have made it clear that Uniques will no longer apply after Death. Slightly different argument but same outcome.

Uniques vs Leader Ability: Inconsistent Inconsistencies!

CombatCommander
8 years ago
"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1074920" wrote:
"TyGonJinn27;c-1074881" wrote:
Yes, I understand your reasoning about real dead people not being able to apply abilities to others. I personally don't know anyone who can. However, there is a huge flaw in your argument due to this being a game. A game of Star Wars at that.

Then you understand the rules given by the Devs: Uniques can NOT function after death.

Those uniques are triggered by the death of the abilitybearer, so it's perfectly WAI. Like the others already said, unique abilities that state: "XY does Z at the endof the turn" or "XY gives YX Z" must not persist after the death of that character. But the description of those characters clearly says: " When XY dies all allies gain Z", so it is not a permanent unique ability, like those from Baze, Barris etc. , but it is one that is caused once in their "lives" by one event, which is their death. Sorry to say that but it's like comparing apples and oranges, they are completely different, so please drop your critics about it and move on, because it is WAI.
RacerDejak
8 years ago
Therefore.. bariss, wiggs, chaze, etc must have their unique restore as before. Because it's WAI in the eye of the player. Plz be consistent ;)
Acrofales
8 years ago
Don't feed the trolls...
SnakesssOnAPlan
8 years ago
I updated my thread title and make some changes in my original post.
DonSKSin
8 years ago
Team should be demoralized when leader dies... Gives tankier leads a bit more value and adds some balance to Rex lead. Unless lead is of a different faction/side, then no morale penalty
Omeah
8 years ago
"SnakesOnAPlane;d-111024" wrote:
Edit: Two points to make here. Point 1 most will not agree with, but clearly that's subjective. Point 2 will likely garner much more support.

Point 1: Since Uniques can no longer apply after death, it's high time we take a serious look at all the Uniques applying after such. Boba, SRP, Old Ben to name a few. Rules are rules, and we should be consistent.

Point 2: Leader Ability: If a Leader dies his Leader ability should end. However, the next in command's (based on position on the battle screen) should kick in. Only way to be consistent and fair. It absolutely makes zero sense to continue a leader ability upon death.

Who said Uniques don't apply after death? All they did was fix that not present Uniques don't work! Ex.: If Wedge died, Biggs would still have the Speed and Offense bonus from his shared Unique. Now, if Wedge dies, Biggs won't have the bonuses, but if Wedge is revived, both of them will have the Effects of his shared Unique again, since he's alive again. The fix's goal was to prevent dead party members' Uniques working, not revived ones'.
Go cry on your Chaze FIX elsewhere
Tripplehopped
8 years ago
"BulYwif;c-1074947" wrote:
"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1074920" wrote:
"TyGonJinn27;c-1074881" wrote:
Yes, I understand your reasoning about real dead people not being able to apply abilities to others. I personally don't know anyone who can. However, there is a huge flaw in your argument due to this being a game. A game of Star Wars at that.

Then you understand the rules given by the Devs: Uniques can NOT function after death.

Uniques cannot function after death if the boost given by this unique was effective during lifetime of the toon. It's how it's working now.
Uniques that are applied ONLY after death are different. Otherwise, those uniques are really unuseful since they could never apply.

+1 it is the ONLY after death part that is clearly stated that makes them different. This is WAI.
Alrikster
8 years ago
Amazing how many people fall for these troll threads
Tripplehopped
8 years ago
"SkyeLeonne;c-1075009" wrote:
Hmm, sounds like you're still salty that they fixed uniques for Chirrut and Baze...I remembered you did make a big fuss about it back then.
Anyways, if Leader works like Uniques, then what's the point of leader skills? may as well call it unique.

This as well.
spacecow-moo-mo
8 years ago
Ok I've got the answer, what the devs should have said is...cannot persist after death...unless it is stated otherwise, also this is a game try to have fun :)