Update on the Finn/Threepio Raid Interaction: Resulting Finn Modifications [MEGA]

@CG_Carrie I, like most people here it seems, have had Finn zeta'd for well over a year at this point so I didn't just give him the zeta because of a raid cheese. You've changed the entire character and it should be up to us to determine if we want to continue to invest rare materials in something that is a completely different thing. I know you'll never see this, or care about it if you do, but you're making the wrong call by not offering the refund to the people that want it

"Gannon;c-1777165" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777158" wrote:

"Gannon;c-1777157" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777150" wrote:

"Padas;c-1777142" wrote:
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.

NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...

sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...

I don't have 3po in defense yet

No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.

you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING

No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain

no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU

you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....

except poor revan cheese people.... gg

So you sold me a Ferrari, now you're coming back and want to replace my engine with a go kart engine. This is unacceptable.

"Dk_rek;c-1777175" wrote:

"Gannon;c-1777165" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777158" wrote:

"Gannon;c-1777157" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777150" wrote:

"Padas;c-1777142" wrote:
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.

NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...

sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...

I don't have 3po in defense yet

No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.

you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING

No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain

no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU

you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....

except poor revan cheese people.... gg

He’s a slow toon that has had TM gain nerfed and has a taunt function directing debuffs and TM reduction at him. He’s not gonna take many turns against anything worth a dam.

I have 2 lead zeta. Finn, and Bossk as of 3 days ago.

The devs released a broken toon..C3P0. Their fix is to nerf a totally different toon. Pathetic. The kit change should have been on the toon that caused the issue, c3p0, not another toon that just happened to synergize with this broken kit. How many people starred, geared and spent ability mats on Finn, only to have the payout stolen from them. If CG/EA can prove that an old school resistance team (Finn, Poe, RT, Scav rey + another) is just as powerful then fair play.... then otherwise refunds are in order. Personally, I wont suffer much since I never exploited the finn/c3p0 cheese and I have JTR as a resistance leader. I really feel bad for those who invested in Finn for the old school resistance to beat pve or gould event content.

"Dk_rek;c-1777175" wrote:

"Gannon;c-1777165" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777158" wrote:

"Gannon;c-1777157" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1777150" wrote:

"Padas;c-1777142" wrote:
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.

NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...

sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...

I don't have 3po in defense yet

No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.

you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING

No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain

no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU

you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....

except poor revan cheese people.... gg

Ok guy, we get it. You like the changes. GREAT!!! I very well might like the changes too. However, I like to carefully review characters that I invest zetas and materials in and so do many other players. The right thing to do here would be to refund zeta AND gear and allow players to make a choice if he is gear/zeta worthy.

This is extremely unfortunate. As a lower level player this zeta helped me contributed to my guild more. I have a total of 4 zetas. It’s a big blow to me. I hope we get the option to have this zeta refunded for players like me to be able to use on a different character. This is no small change. It is quite significant.

"Dk_rek;c-1777138" wrote:
I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy

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You dont know how to play this game. This destroys a viable team to take down Revan as the tmr is tenacity/potency dependent. Nobody cares about the hstr loop, this is about

1) Destroying a TW offense team against Revan/Traya
2) Destroying the Haat solo that CG_Tophat said would stay intact
3) Claiming that it will be viable in P3 (but that would remove your P1 team)
4) Fundamentally changing EVERYTHING about an ability and not offering a refund.

These changes do not drastically alter the performance of the Finn-led Resistance squad in PvP

This is a total load of ..... Seriously the only way this team ever worked was to never let the other team have a turn. Not just one targeted character... THE ENTIRE team couldn't take a turn. It's the way it worked before c3po and after him. Before c3po you had to Max speed on Poe, now you just need han but the mechanic was the same.

This team may have some pvp viability with these changes but it won't get me this anymore I can tell you that:



They say finn isn't part of the meta, but for some of us he is the ONLY revan counter, unless he can still counter revan then you have DRASTICALLY changed his pvp viability.