Vulture droid

"MaruMaru;c-2361356" wrote:
Serious question: if you believe that the game cheats against you, why do you keep playing it? Nothing you get/buy will change the cheat, you'll always be playing an unfair game if you actually believe it.

It's actually irrelevant. We aren't playing against the game, we are playing against each other.

"MaruMaru;c-2361351" wrote:

"Whatelse73;c-2361213" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2360364" wrote:
This type of bogus accusations without any data dilutes the focus from the actual issue which has nothing to do with ai getting more assists.

You can call it "bogus" all you want, that's you having blinders on to anything critical of CG and RNG. But hey, good for you for living in the land of sunshine, happy flowers and make believe.

When MY ships on offense dodge 10 times in a row, multiple times and/or dodge 14 of 15 attacks as the ships on defense have I'm trying to take out, then I'll consider it "even". It's not bogus if players can watch the AI getting better rolls over and over again in multiple matches. I just watched two fleets get obliterated because Tie Fighter dodged so many attacks, Thrawn's capital ship did its ultimate THREE TIMES with only Tie Fighter remaining. Why? Oh because Tie Fighter has a whopping 25% dodge rate and because of that dodges 95% of the time. That's the kind of GARBAGE that we have to experience. My ships ain't doing that on offense. (If your ships are dodging 10 attacks in a row on offense, post the video to prove it.)

If CG can tell me about specific matches where my ships on offense did 10 dodges in a row, more than once, okay fine. But that doesn't happen FOR me, only AGAINST me. It doesn't matter if it's in TB, TW, GAC, fleet arena, etc. The "RNG" excuse is masking AI advantage. I'm not saying I lose all the time, or that I lose most of the time. But in GAC especially, when there are bugs, the AI has advantages, added to ships being ignored for years, it's just more fuel on the fire. If you have "bad" RNG two times in Kyber GAC, that's it, you most likely aren't clearing. This bug makes that possibility increase substantially.

I'm pretty critical of cg. Rng though is another topic called statistics. If you just put the effort towards gathering data that showcases your claim instead of anectodal "I can't believe this happened" quotes, you can actually prove that ai controlled fleets behave better than player controlled ones. Until then, it's a %100 bogus claim. And please don't hide behind the bug that noone claims doesn't exist which has nothing to do with your claim about "cheating ai".

I did. ten dodges in a row has happened multiple times. My counter is for CG to tell me when one of my ships has dodged 10 times in a row on offense? Let alone 14 of 15 attacks being dodged. I've also seen streamers / content creators have similar issues with 5+ dodges in a row, especially when the AI has one ship left. (I'm sure it's just a coincidence and I'm crazy though.)

I also play the game because there are many other aspects of it that I enjoy. What I have an issue with is the "RNG" that appears to dislike losing sometimes. CG's response will be "well if we look at the average of win/loss and how often dodging is happening to all players and in all matches, it's well within the percentage rate." (Even though a 25% dodge rate should mean that 10 dodges in a row is statistically improbable. Very improbable.)

At that, when there's a legit bug like with the vulture droid, that makes RNG even worse for players. "well it's just RNG" is a lame excuse. Bugs add to the frustration of that RNG as well. I realize they're working to try to fix the bugs, but fleets is already a pain as it is, without bugs like this occurring.

"Thufir;c-2359841" wrote:
3 weeks ago lol. Wow, just crippling an in-game counter for weeks without mentioning it. Classic.

I rarely do the Mal counter on the Executor, before or after the bug was introduced. I'm just curious - are there stats showing a significant drop in the win rate before and after?

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2359864" wrote:

"Thufir;c-2359841" wrote:
3 weeks ago lol. Wow, just crippling an in-game counter for weeks without mentioning it. Classic.

I rarely do the Mal counter on the Executor, before or after the bug was introduced. I'm just curious - are there stats showing a significant drop in the win rate before and after?

Yesterday I saw some assists. Maybe they have fixed some issues (by accident).

"zatho;c-2359865" wrote:

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2359864" wrote:

"Thufir;c-2359841" wrote:
3 weeks ago lol. Wow, just crippling an in-game counter for weeks without mentioning it. Classic.

I rarely do the Mal counter on the Executor, before or after the bug was introduced. I'm just curious - are there stats showing a significant drop in the win rate before and after?

Yesterday I saw some assists. Maybe they have fixed some issues (by accident).

Assists from the vulture replacing the OG? That would be the fix. Other spawned vultures do assist fine.

"By accident" sounds rather scary. :D

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2359866" wrote:

"zatho;c-2359865" wrote:

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2359864" wrote:

"Thufir;c-2359841" wrote:
3 weeks ago lol. Wow, just crippling an in-game counter for weeks without mentioning it. Classic.

I rarely do the Mal counter on the Executor, before or after the bug was introduced. I'm just curious - are there stats showing a significant drop in the win rate before and after?

Yesterday I saw some assists. Maybe they have fixed some issues (by accident).

Assists from the vulture replacing the OG? That would be the fix. Other spawned vultures do assist fine.

"By accident" sounds rather scary. :D

summoned ones. But these also were not assisting the past weeks

"Thufir;c-2359841" wrote:
3 weeks ago lol. Wow, just crippling an in-game counter for weeks without mentioning it. Classic.

i’ll check up

"Ravens1113;c-2360206" wrote:
And the trend of “if it helps we fix, if it hurts it stays” when it comes to fixing bugs. Lost my GAC cause the summoned vulture droid from the original never assisting. That’s cool, who needs an extra 700 crystals anyway lmao

The bug did help a player. It helped your opponent. In GAC it does not benefit CG by giving out less rewards

"MaruMaru;c-2360588" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2360583" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2360577" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2360569" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2360364" wrote:
This type of bogus accusations without any data dilutes the focus from the actual issue which has nothing to do with ai getting more assists.

you sound like EA Answers, who even when presented with video evidence still dismissed it.

I think you misuderstood what I'm responding to. The issue is the change to the vulture assists making malo counter to exec worse, not ai controlled player fleet getting more assists than player controlled ones. I've yet to see a video of this "cheating ai" that is claimed on the post above mine.

Vulture droid has 3 bugs on it atm at least; even EA answers conceded that. I have seen the behavior described by Sewpot just in doing battle against Malevolences. Maybe you should fight more of them, then you can enjoy the fact that the AI controlled "player" vulture's replacement does the behavior described. You don't work for CG so whether you believe the bug exists or not is of no impact to any other forum user.

These aren't hard bugs to encounter. To hear support talk, they are. But I've not met anyone who hasn't suffered from the bugs.

Do I get it correctly; same fleet's vultures behave differently when controlled by the player vs. attacked by another player?

yes they do. Which is weird but i've replicated it several times in my alt and it only adds to the frustration of the bug.

"MaruMaru;c-2361466" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2361451" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2361356" wrote:
Serious question: if you believe that the game cheats against you, why do you keep playing it? Nothing you get/buy will change the cheat, you'll always be playing an unfair game if you actually believe it.

It's actually irrelevant. We aren't playing against the game, we are playing against each other.

At no point we play against eachother directly. There's always ai at the other end. See the previous posts to understand where this is coming from.

You don't play against GA opponents?

And I don't only mean your matched opponent, but our place on the GAC rank ladder is based on our performance relative to everyone else's. It's literally how we are measured.