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5 years ago

What is the whole point of true defense in GC?

I realize what true defense is supposed to do but for me it’s not working. At 9 stacks of true defense thrawn can basic and hit a 95k crit many times. According to the description true defense is supposed to reduce damage take by 10% per stack which is 90% at 9 stacks. Either true defense does not work or thrawn is hitting for 950,000 and because of the reduction brings it to only 10% damage leaving it at 95,000 damage. I’m very confused.

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  • Well, I guess its not how the math works.

    Spoiler
    Ok, so there is something called diminishing returns. Basically the more you stack of something, the lesser you get. Let's take, for example, the defense stat.

    Let's say you have 0 armor. The damage reduction is 0. Obviously.

    Now you add 50% defense. You would expect to receive 50% less damage but that's not how it actually happens. The formula works something like

    Damage received = (Initial damage)/(1+defense)

    In this case, let's assume the base damage is 100. The defense will be 0.5 (50%).

    Damage received = 100/1.5 = 66.6%

    Now let's look at the same with 90% defense but keep the initial damage the same.

    Damage received = 100/1.9 = 52.6

    As you can see, the more defense you stack, the lesser damage reduction you gain. Doesn't mean that more true defense is bad...just that more stacks don't necessarily reduce the damage equally.


    This is just my guess how it works.
  • I read it as each stack gives 10% less damage per hit, then the stack goes away. Sort of like droid battalion. One hit = 10% less damage. So if you take 9 hits for 10k each, you take 9k damage 9 times, not 1k (90% reduction), then 2k (80%), then 3k (70%), etc.

    I didn’t read it as if you have 9 stacks you get 90% less damage on 1 hit. I could see where both interpretations come from though. It’s kind of ambiguous.
  • "khelzac;c-2158329" wrote:
    Well, I guess its not how the math works.

    Spoiler
    Ok, so there is something called diminishing returns. Basically the more you stack of something, the lesser you get. Let's take, for example, the defense stat.

    Let's say you have 0 armor. The damage reduction is 0. Obviously.

    Now you add 50% defense. You would expect to receive 50% less damage but that's not how it actually happens. The formula works something like

    Damage received = (Initial damage)/(1+defense)

    In this case, let's assume the base damage is 100. The defense will be 0.5 (50%).

    Damage received = 100/1.5 = 66.6%

    Now let's look at the same with 90% defense but keep the initial damage the same.

    Damage received = 100/1.9 = 52.6

    As you can see, the more defense you stack, the lesser damage reduction you gain. Doesn't mean that more true defense is bad...just that more stacks don't necessarily reduce the damage equally.


    This is just my guess how it works.


    It’s not +10% defense though, it’s 10% less damage, which isn’t calculated like defense is.
  • "KausDebonair;c-2158337" wrote:
    "khelzac;c-2158329" wrote:
    Well, I guess its not how the math works.

    Spoiler
    Ok, so there is something called diminishing returns. Basically the more you stack of something, the lesser you get. Let's take, for example, the defense stat.

    Let's say you have 0 armor. The damage reduction is 0. Obviously.

    Now you add 50% defense. You would expect to receive 50% less damage but that's not how it actually happens. The formula works something like

    Damage received = (Initial damage)/(1+defense)

    In this case, let's assume the base damage is 100. The defense will be 0.5 (50%).

    Damage received = 100/1.5 = 66.6%

    Now let's look at the same with 90% defense but keep the initial damage the same.

    Damage received = 100/1.9 = 52.6

    As you can see, the more defense you stack, the lesser damage reduction you gain. Doesn't mean that more true defense is bad...just that more stacks don't necessarily reduce the damage equally.


    This is just my guess how it works.


    It’s not +10% defense though, it’s 10% less damage, which isn’t calculated like defense is.


    Ah, that would make sense more. Should've read more carefully, my bad.
  • Ahh I see that’s makes more sense then. I was under the impression the amount of stacks you had calculated the amount of damage reduction you receive like for example 50% damage reduction for 5 stacks, but actually it’s 10% for 9 hits.

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