With another credit heist for me in the books (Thank the Maker for 2.5 + 5M), I began to wonder, what is the business case for using credits to slow roster growth. It seems counter intuitive to me at this point, as gear is the true bottle neck to progression. I am sure there are some that use crystals for credits, or arena tokens, but my feeling tells me these are minority instances. After all, why level or star a toon that you don't have the gear for anyway?Wouldn't it make more sense to provide more credits, which would lead to starring and leveling more characters, which puts gear in a greater demand, which should increase crystals purchases to get gear? Plus, the player base is more satisfied as they don't have to look at 250/65 under the progression bars of characters. It makes players feel like they are moving forward, even though they are bound to crash into a gear wall anyway.Additionally, I would add a bonus or additional Tier to the Credit Heist. The last Tier has become very easy (auto play and maybe take 1 or 2 hits). Increase the difficulty and rewards, and include credits and ship building materials.Just a thought.

Isn't that already the case? For me it has been like that for a while, enough credits to promote, lvl and mod characters, but no gear. I've got a few 250/65 shard, lvl 1, gear 0 characters i could promote and level, but since i don't have enough gear to make them somewhat viable, i really don't see the point in doing so.

So I understand, you're asking why the designers have made a progression speed what it is? Suggesting they change it to someone else's (a player's) personal preference?

"nubkin;811174" wrote:"Orions;811154" wrote:There are a few sources for gear now besides farming regular nodes, Shard Shop, Guild Store, Shipments (for crystals..), Fleet Shipments, but it seems people are farming for character shards before gear.I've got to the point where i'd rather just work on my current roster, but they keep releasing characters that weren't farmable before and MUCH stronger NEW characters so it hard to keep up and stick with a set roster..OI want to be competitive but the system is stacked otherwise. If you want to unlock all the mod challenges you've to neglect your raid and arena roster. If you want to focus on your raid roster, you've to neglect your arena roster. The system is "stacked otherwise"? I'd say it's stacked perfectly to be competative. Can't do it all, but your competitors can't either. chose carefully what to neglect and where to focus in order out-perform your enemies.

credits I have.Training droids on the otherhand, NOPE

"ShaolinPunk;811149" wrote:So I understand, you're asking why the designers have made a progression speed what it is? Suggesting they change it to someone else's (a player's) personal preference? To be fair, I think his question is why does it seem that there is not a single gate to progression speed (which is the case in most games - and sufficient) - but why are there multiple gates (i.e. credits AND shards AND gear AND tournaments, etc.). I think it's a fair question.Honestly, I think the simple answer is EA is smart(?) enough to realize, if they can make whales pay to jump one hurdle, why not male them pay to jump two? or four?

Why are credits so sparse and always in demand?

emvedebe
8 years ago
Isn't that already the case?
For me it has been like that for a while, enough credits to promote, lvl and mod characters, but no gear. I've got a few 250/65 shard, lvl 1, gear 0 characters i could promote and level, but since i don't have enough gear to make them somewhat viable, i really don't see the point in doing so.
Shaolin_Punk_66
8 years ago
So I understand, you're asking why the designers have made a progression speed what it is? Suggesting they change it to someone else's (a player's) personal preference?
emvedebe
8 years ago
"nubkin;811174" wrote:
"Orions;811154" wrote:

There are a few sources for gear now besides farming regular nodes, Shard Shop, Guild Store, Shipments (for crystals..), Fleet Shipments, but it seems people are farming for character shards before gear.

I've got to the point where i'd rather just work on my current roster, but they keep releasing characters that weren't farmable before and MUCH stronger NEW characters so it hard to keep up and stick with a set roster..

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I want to be competitive but the system is stacked otherwise. If you want to unlock all the mod challenges you've to neglect your raid and arena roster. If you want to focus on your raid roster, you've to neglect your arena roster.

The system is "stacked otherwise"? I'd say it's stacked perfectly to be competative. Can't do it all, but your competitors can't either. chose carefully what to neglect and where to focus in order out-perform your enemies.
blackv27
8 years ago
credits I have.
Training droids on the otherhand, NOPE
Nikoms565
8 years ago
"ShaolinPunk;811149" wrote:
So I understand, you're asking why the designers have made a progression speed what it is? Suggesting they change it to someone else's (a player's) personal preference?

To be fair, I think his question is why does it seem that there is not a single gate to progression speed (which is the case in most games - and sufficient) - but why are there multiple gates (i.e. credits AND shards AND gear AND tournaments, etc.). I think it's a fair question.

Honestly, I think the simple answer is EA is smart(?) enough to realize, if they can make whales pay to jump one hurdle, why not male them pay to jump two? or four?
Bhaalor71
New Spectator
8 years ago
"BlackV;811227" wrote:
credits I have.
Training droids on the otherhand, NOPE

how is that even...
DarthBarron
8 years ago
"Nikoms565;811250" wrote:
"ShaolinPunk;811149" wrote:
So I understand, you're asking why the designers have made a progression speed what it is? Suggesting they change it to someone else's (a player's) personal preference?

To be fair, I think his question is why does it seem that there is not a single gate to progression speed (which is the case in most games - and sufficient) - but why are there multiple gates (i.e. credits AND shards AND gear AND tournaments, etc.). I think it's a fair question.

Honestly, I think the simple answer is EA is smart(?) enough to realize, if they can make whales pay to jump one hurdle, why not male them pay to jump two? or four?

Correct - I was simply asking what is the benefit to limiting credits as much as they currently are limited (somewhere between 12 - 15M weekly - rough guess - and assuming a heist occurs). Progression is already throttled by shard farming and bottle necked by gear. Does the introduction of a third bottleneck really help that much or would releasing the bottleneck spur spending to the help ease the gear bottle neck?
Allenb60
8 years ago
I have had too many credits since I started playing. At the moment 4.5m in training droids and almost 13.7m credits... I think it just depends on what you invest them in
Ericsonx
8 years ago
I gotta ask-is the amount you get greatly weighted towards just one amount? I do the one where you can get up to 5 mill, and 99% of the time I always wind up getting 1.25 mill. ONCE I got the 5 mill-which vanished 5 minutes later, but, still, I'm not asking to get less than 1.25 vs the minimum of 750K, but, it's weird that save once, that's the only amount I've ever gotten. Not 2 mill, or 2.5, or 3 mill, or even 4.
seanhlfc88
8 years ago
Learn how to manage your resources. I've got 11mil in creds saved. Are all my characters fully leveled and geared? No. Only my top toons I use. I'm saving some for EP when I get him and have extra I can use for mods or to bring another character up if I want to change squads a bit. Or maybe a new toon will come out and I can use them there. Speaking of EP I've got every piece of gear ready to get to gear10+. Manage your resources on who deserves it. Then you'll have extra to play with.