... because the other one, with physical damage, is about as useful as tits on a bull.I even checked Thrawn, Talzin... but looks like only GMYoda got shafted (from what I can see so far)

@CG_SBCrumb did the person that was reworking Yoda not talk to the person that was assigning g12+ here? I am pretty sure GMY is the only character that gets this gear that has 0 physical damage attacks. It makes no sense to change his basic to a special damage attack then assign him a gear that raise physical damage and physical crit chance. I thought this new gear was supposed to be some super improvement on the character not boosting useless stats.

"scuba;c-1583433" wrote:@CG_SBCrumb did the person that was reworking Yoda not talk to the person that was assigning g12+ here? I am pretty sure GMY is the only character that gets this gear that has 0 physical damage attacks. It makes no sense to change his basic to a special damage attack then assign him a gear that raise physical damage and physical crit chance. I thought this new gear was supposed to be some super improvement on the character not boosting useless stats. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it’s a bug and we should post it on the EA bug website?

"Clash2Far;c-1583436" wrote:"scuba;c-1583433" wrote:@CG_SBCrumb did the person that was reworking Yoda not talk to the person that was assigning g12+ here? I am pretty sure GMY is the only character that gets this gear that has 0 physical damage attacks. It makes no sense to change his basic to a special damage attack then assign him a gear that raise physical damage and physical crit chance. I thought this new gear was supposed to be some super improvement on the character not boosting useless stats. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it’s a bug and we should post it on the EA bug website?I have done my bug reporting from this update. I am done till the next one

"scuba;c-1583433" wrote:@CG_SBCrumb did the person that was reworking Yoda not talk to the person that was assigning g12+ here? I am pretty sure GMY is the only character that gets this gear that has 0 physical damage attacks. It makes no sense to change his basic to a special damage attack then assign him a gear that raise physical damage and physical crit chance. I thought this new gear was supposed to be some super improvement on the character not boosting useless stats. CG's lack of communication is so extreme that they don't even communicate internally.

"Ultra;c-1583700" wrote:"scuba;c-1583433" wrote:@CG_SBCrumb did the person that was reworking Yoda not talk to the person that was assigning g12+ here? I am pretty sure GMY is the only character that gets this gear that has 0 physical damage attacks. It makes no sense to change his basic to a special damage attack then assign him a gear that raise physical damage and physical crit chance. I thought this new gear was supposed to be some super improvement on the character not boosting useless stats. CG's lack of communication is so extreme that they don't even communicate internally. It is funny. Out of 153 characters that each get 2 new pieces of gear 1 of them gets a piece of gear that boost stats the character doesn't use. (I am discounting AGI/STR/TAC in this because those boost multiple stats.). I for one would have preferred he got more of a boost to his defense stats (yes many consider these useless) over stats that do nothing for him

Why does GMYoda only get one g12+ piece of gear?

NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
7 years ago
"scuba;c-1587245" wrote:
"CG_SBCrumb;c-1587225" wrote:
Hi folks,

The Mk 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens on Grand Master Yoda is not a bug and though far from ideal, does provide him a very small boost in effectiveness.

There are other characters that also have less than ideal gear such as Scavenger Rey. She has several pieces of TAC-based gear which she only benefits marginally from equipping. Similarly with Grand Master Yoda, he gains mostly health from the G12+ Holo Lens (and some speed, of course), so not entirely useless, but also not a significant performance improvement.

Regardless of GMY having the Mk 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens, he has been balanced with this in mind and will perform well in certain game modes. (Psssst, such as P1 of the Heroic Sith raid as an example)

In the short term, I would recommend focusing on Yoda’s other gear and equipping the Mk 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens on another character if you earn one. There are definitely a few others that would love to have that additional physical damage!

You are seriously going to compare G11 to G12+???
he is the only character that has no physical damage attacks and gets boosts from G12+ to physical damage stats. That is 1/306 G12+ that doesn't match and expect me to believe it was intentional? I never expected ideal or perfect (that is in the eye of the beholder) but I didn't expect them to get factually useless stats. I am discounting AGI/STR/TAC in this as those tend to boost multiple stats.

Sadly I expected this answer.
No way was this intentional

they screwed up so badly and unfortunately, they are going to stick with it to save face (do they even have any at this point?)

The Rey explanation doesn't seem sensible either because at the time Rey was one-shotting every single toon even Royal Guard which was like the best tank of the time whereas Yoda just got a completely useless top quality gear because he's good in P1? While Resistance is untouched.

So the logic is that Yoda getting good gear is bad because he's great in P1 of STR and you need to do amazing in P1 of STR to rank #1 to get this gear

Great logic

The more I think about it the more obvious it seems they goofed up really badly
Xezee
7 years ago
This is how they balance characters. GMY is already powerful post rework.
VertigoBeast
7 years ago
"Xezee;c-1587501" wrote:
This is how they balance characters. GMY is already powerful post rework.

Just seems odd that they wouldn't just balance the character itself rather than making the hardest to obtain gear do it when they were released at essentially the same exact time...
Boba_The_Fetter
7 years ago
Not gonna feel nice putting gthat piece on GMY 2 years from now when you can accumulate the salvage for it
CaiaphasDomo
7 years ago
@CG_SBCrumb

To quote yourself, "G12+ pieces are some of the most powerful gear we have released and will provide a power boost almost comparable to upgrading from G11 to G12"

So ... you lied. Nice.

Quotes:
1) "G12+ pieces are some of the most powerful gear we have released and will provide a power boost almost comparable to upgrading from G11 to G12"
2) "The Mk 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens on Grand Master Yoda is not a bug and though far from ideal, does provide him a very small boost in effectiveness"

Colour me surprised.
Nikoms565
7 years ago
"Boba_The_Fetter;c-1587556" wrote:
Not gonna feel nice putting gthat piece on GMY 2 years from now when you can accumulate the salvage for it

You'll probably need to equip it to open XIII by then.... :'(
bcarry82
7 years ago
There's a lot of difficult to obtain worthless gear across all gear levels. JKA is a great example. Mk9 Holo Lens is pretty difficult and applies +470 health, +35 tac, and +1% tenacity. Only thing worthwhile there is the health.

I agree. It irks me that a G12+ piece is immaterial to a character. I just don't see getting bent out of shape about it especially when it's existed throughout every gear level since I can ever remember.

spoiler alert: they're not going to fix it.
JacenRoe
7 years ago
"Caiaphas;c-1587869" wrote:
There is useless gear that is easy to obtain, and then there is g12+ useless gear that can only be obtained in the Heroic Sith raid with the recent changes in rewards. Only GMY has one of those bits of useless gear. There is a bit of a difference...

edit: and no, @JacenRoe , the piece in question does not give him Speed, Health, and Armour. That would be the GOOD piece of gear that he DOES NOT get. the piece in question gives him speed (they all do), Agility (which is not his stat), physical damage (which he does not do), and physical crit rating (which is also useless)

If it was a mk12 Fusion Furnace, there would be no issue, as that piece gives Health, Armour, Resistance and Speed. That is all good.

Just to verify, we are talking about Grand Master Yoda, and we are also talking about his MK 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens right? If so here is a link to the page for that gear piece on SWGOH.gg.

https://swgoh.gg/db/gear/170/mk-12-armatek-holo-lens/

It gives 6 speed, 2000 health, and it gives agility. Raising Yoda's agility increases his armor just in case you weren't aware. Look at his stats in the game. It will tell you that right there.
JacenRoe
7 years ago
"Princerhaegar04;c-1587966" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1587925" wrote:
"Caiaphas;c-1587869" wrote:
There is useless gear that is easy to obtain, and then there is g12+ useless gear that can only be obtained in the Heroic Sith raid with the recent changes in rewards. Only GMY has one of those bits of useless gear. There is a bit of a difference...

edit: and no, @JacenRoe , the piece in question does not give him Speed, Health, and Armour. That would be the GOOD piece of gear that he DOES NOT get. the piece in question gives him speed (they all do), Agility (which is not his stat), physical damage (which he does not do), and physical crit rating (which is also useless)

If it was a mk12 Fusion Furnace, there would be no issue, as that piece gives Health, Armour, Resistance and Speed. That is all good.

Just to verify, we are talking about Grand Master Yoda, and we are also talking about his MK 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens right? If so here is a link to the page for that gear piece on SWGOH.gg.

https://swgoh.gg/db/gear/170/mk-12-armatek-holo-lens/

It gives 6 speed, 2000 health, and it gives agility. Raising Yoda's agility increases his armor just in case you weren't aware. Look at his stats in the game. It will tell you that right there.

Read at the start. You are clearly lost. If you read you will find your way. I'm not being condescending either.

I did read. Did you? I'm just trying to triple check we're talking about the same thing because what he wrote is wrong. I provided a link to proof of the wrongness... if you bothered to look at it.
minato408
New Spectator
7 years ago

"JacenRoe;c-1588042" wrote:
"Princerhaegar04;c-1587966" wrote:
"JacenRoe;c-1587925" wrote:
"Caiaphas;c-1587869" wrote:
There is useless gear that is easy to obtain, and then there is g12+ useless gear that can only be obtained in the Heroic Sith raid with the recent changes in rewards. Only GMY has one of those bits of useless gear. There is a bit of a difference...

edit: and no, @JacenRoe , the piece in question does not give him Speed, Health, and Armour. That would be the GOOD piece of gear that he DOES NOT get. the piece in question gives him speed (they all do), Agility (which is not his stat), physical damage (which he does not do), and physical crit rating (which is also useless)

If it was a mk12 Fusion Furnace, there would be no issue, as that piece gives Health, Armour, Resistance and Speed. That is all good.

Just to verify, we are talking about Grand Master Yoda, and we are also talking about his MK 12 ArmaTek Holo Lens right? If so here is a link to the page for that gear piece on SWGOH.gg.

https://swgoh.gg/db/gear/170/mk-12-armatek-holo-lens/

It gives 6 speed, 2000 health, and it gives agility. Raising Yoda's agility increases his armor just in case you weren't aware. Look at his stats in the game. It will tell you that right there.

Read at the start. You are clearly lost. If you read you will find your way. I'm not being condescending either.

I did read. Did you? I'm just trying to triple check we're talking about the same thing because what he wrote is wrong. I provided a link to proof of the wrongness... if you bothered to look at it.

Stats
+40 Agility
+2000 Health
+100 Physical Damage <---
+85 Physical Critical Rating <---
+6 Speed

its these stats i believe is what the issues here.

I think below this is what people would have wanted to GMY

Stats
+40 Intelligence
+3050 Health
+50 Special Critical Rating <---
+60 Resistance Penetration
+6 Speed