Even tho i prefer sith and empire. and well the DS as a whole. i am so happy that all of these rebels and other characters that we needed (had) to farm for other events are being able to be used. Not to mention the amount of LS toons that are relevant or worth using are about 2 to 3 times more of them

There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf.

Well Battlefront II you play as a team of imperial/FO soldiers so..... expect them in this game

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other. They could have arranged the table starting from each side moving towards a final battle in the middle, allowing you to play LS defending Hoth and DS advancing on Hoth. This seems ridiculously obvious, and I am a bit flummoxed that they didn't think of this. So much for "every toon matters." And I say this as a primarily light-side player who has most of the toons needed for specific missions. The way they set it up works just fine for me, but I'm not at all surprised that so many folks are irritated right now. This is the biggest game content addition since raids were introduced, and to effectively exclude an entire faction is just bizarre and tone-deaf. We are in the same boat, and I feel the same way. There has been too much light side/Rebel love. I like light side, and I'm sitting pretty well for this, and I understand that the nature of the movies means that there are more named Rebels.But the light side tilt is hard to defend.There are 16 (soon to be 19) more light side toons than dark. Even the B and C list light side factions (like Jawas, and Ewoks) have important uses, good synergy, and special events. While the dark side sports some of the worst factions in the game. (Nightsisters, Seperatists, Bounty Hunters, Tuskans, etc)And I had the same idea about starting a board from opposite sides, using both, and meeting in the middle. That would have been great. Not trying to steal your thunder with that idea, but as you said it's "ridiculously obvious."Not trying to be too critical of this game mode yet. It looks like a lot of fun. The rewards look great. I'm excited to get into it. I'm 90% positive looking at Territory Battles. But I hope that this marks the end of Rebel love for a bit, and the beginning of some major dark side reworks, character additions, and at some point a dark side focused Territory Battles map. And that's coming from someone who has been desperate to see Mace get a beastly rework for over a year.

"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

I don't know about everyone else... /sarcasm/ but my first free and unlocked characters were Light Side... the Dark Side characters came a little later.No need to fret, they will release a Dark Side TB in the future. And for the (I'm guessing/speculating this figure) 25% of the player base that focused on Dark Side, are the ones upset that first TB is LS. IF YOU were the developer, you would target the largest audience for success initially, i.e. the other 75% of the playerbase that has strong LS roster. Hence it's less impactful to upset 25% instead of the 75%.Once both LS and DS TB are in full effect this will be a non-issue. And the same for new players who won't have a bias that they expect the game to conform to their imposed character focus. Also, imagine the uproar from the 75% about how the required DS take much longer to farm than most of the LS. Everyone would suffer the less rewards and much longer ramp up time to be prepared for a DS TB.

Why Light Side is the perfect decision for TB.

Smokinjoe141414
8 years ago
"JohnnySteelAlpha;c-1236894" wrote:
"NicWester;c-1236754" wrote:
"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:
There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.

There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.

Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

I think we keep getting rammed with Rebels because of Disney / marketing focus - not anything that's really based in lore. The R1 movie was Rebel-focused, the Rebels cartoon series is rebel focused - Disney pushes the good guys for profit. This game is a big commercial that we are playing.

This!

It's just like actuon figures sold from cartoons, creators would kill off, or write off characters to bring in new ones to promote selling new figurines.
NicWester
8 years ago
Yes. I'm certain the good guys are pushed for profit and definitely not for any other reasons. If Rebels weren't so profitable, I am sure our favorite friendly planet-busting genocidal space n@zis would be the center stage.

Absolutely market-driven decision with no other possible facets.
heiligenborre
8 years ago
"Tromedlov13;c-1236676" wrote:
I would've preferred if they were going to do an LS focused TB if wouldn't be Hoth.

Pretty much the only on screen battle in history where the DS won, they could've waited and done Hoth second and made it DS focused.

What TB are we going to have in the future that is DS focused when the best option is already taken.

As mention above not sure why it isn't mixed (though I guess it could be and we just haven't seen the one or two parts of the TB that need them.

In my opinion, Hoth should've either been mixed - some LS battles that need HRS's and such, but also battles that need GV, DV, Snowtrooper, etc. or been strictly DS.

@Tromedlov13 The DS one will be "Save our Star", with a mostly in-space X-Wing shoot-them-up that ends in a race against time to shoot Luke in that trench and prevent him to launch that bomb.
zKnivesy
8 years ago
"xReDeMpx;c-1236930" wrote:
"HyperCalm1;c-1236669" wrote:
"Jinks;c-1236645" wrote:
One can can only hope. 2017 was the rear of the Dark Side. This message was approved by Dr. Freud.

Yeah because Nihilus and Thrawn are obviously no good.

You say that like they make up for the lightside imbalance lmao. Bla bla bla, meta meta meta, bla....

Please remind me and tell me what not to mention. My favorite faction is Bounty Hunters so don't tell me or remind me of anything. I like this game and I'm trying to enjoy all of the content. Anyone that has played more than a few months knows not to focus solely on one thing. I care about more than meta. LYAO all you want.
JohnnySteelAlph
8 years ago
"NicWester;c-1236921" wrote:
Yes. I'm certain the good guys are pushed for profit and definitely not for any other reasons. If Rebels weren't so profitable, I am sure our favorite friendly planet-busting genocidal space n@zis would be the center stage.

Absolutely market-driven decision with no other possible facets.

Disney is not going to create a dark-side focused story targeted at little kids like Rebels. The rebel focus isn't because in the story lore-wise they are OP or whipping up the Empire, it's because of target demographic and marketing decisions. That then gets reflected in this game naturally since Disney wants it to fit with their overall branding and marketing strategy. Disney just whipped up the Rebles series out of nowhere - they have full power to continue to bend the series anyway they want and given what Disney is, that will surely be a light side biased perspective.

See canon approved series below for even younger audiences - no dark side here either.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Forces_of_Destiny

Ventress has a pretty interesting story arc from Clone Wars - why not bring in her as a female? Doesn't fit the marketing plan to hook the kids. It's just more marketing-based focus of LS characters that really doesn't have anything to do with the story and lore overall.

Many of the rebels we see in arena ... actually were killed by the Empire. Chaze wasn't even killed by force wielding Empire. The rebels really didn't win - the light side of the force and the good still left in Anakin is what won ultimately.
emvedebe
8 years ago
"leef;c-1236516" wrote:
yup, it's a blessing ~~(in disguise for some)~~.

correction: in disguise for most ;)
Acidwormss
8 years ago
It was poor timing. Dark side already are getting stomped on, and this makes it worse. Dark Side are inferior in every aspect of the game already, and dark side users in my guild (including me) are understandably very upset.

And, for everyone saying DS will get their event in the future, it seems likely, but there is no guarantee, and when will it come out? 6 months, a year? Unless there was an announcement this argument just isn't one right now.
slugbahr
8 years ago
"NicWester;c-1236754" wrote:
"Swordd;c-1236656" wrote:
There is no reason this had to be one way or the other.

There's no reason anything has to be anything, sure. But there's plenty of reasons why you should do something, for example making this a light sode event this time.

Light is popular. Like, way more popular. Way, way, way more popular. Star Wars is the story of the Light Side beating up the Dark Side and taking its lunch money. Sure, Dark Side is cool and edgey in a "Zach Snyder makes the best movies so dark and grin" kind of way. But it's the losing side and it's the evil side. Why wouldn't the first Battle be Light-oriented?

Star Wars is the story of Jedi v Sith. The 'rebels' would've been smacked into non-existence if not for the jedi ie Luke.
But look at how they are treated in this 'game'.
Star Wars: Galaxy of Rebels? Yeah, that were hopelessly outclassed until the jedi returned to save them.
WarrMonkey
8 years ago
I just want to know why I bothered farming veers? First was cause I thought he and the troopers were going to be useful (they aren't). Then I see TB is in hoth, a battle the DS won and left the rebels scrambling, so figured fo' sure veers will be in TB. :neutral:
emvedebe
8 years ago
"warmonkey;c-1238835" wrote:
I just want to know why I bothered farming veers? First was cause I thought he and the troopers were going to be useful (they aren't). Then I see TB is in hoth, a battle the DS won and left the rebels scrambling, so figured fo' sure veers will be in TB. :neutral:

i remember a mention of a Veers boost/buff in TB, thought by a dev. Can't find it anymore unfortunately, so i'm probably wrong.
Veers + troopers should be an awesome team for when a DS TB comes around. (wich inevitably will come around, right? right?! ;) ) It's one of the reasons i'll finish my Veers farm, also because i think it's a cool team ofcourse.