This is an honest question. PvP in “turned based” games seems inherently flawed to me.. as it heavily depends on who goes first. And yes, I know there is pve in this game.. but it’s pretty weak. It seems like there’s a lot of room for expansion/improvement here. Where’s the creativity? Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at the issues it’s been causing..

"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing.. Yes. Pretty much since the games inception the community has been asking for two things: more and better PvP (with the ultimate desire being live PvP), and access to beta testing (with the ultimate desire being access to separate beta servers). GAC and the exhibition seasons seems to be CGs response to these requests.

Currently I would say approx. half of the game's content relies on pve, though many like me consider that a necessary evil to reach pvp ends. And yeah there's major interest for pvp. No, pvp doesn't always rely on who goes first, who is fastest on most cases more like, but not the first toon to go if there are balancing factors on the other end. The shiz GAC causes is hardly because there's a GAC, I've yet to see topics that people ask for cancellation of GAC as a mode all together. Yours may be one, dunno.

"VaexquaGer;c-1913273" wrote:"jhbuchholz;c-1913268" wrote:"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing.. Yes. Pretty much since the games inception the community has been asking for two things: more and better PvP (with the ultimate desire being live PvP), and access to beta testing (with the ultimate desire being access to separate beta servers). GAC and the exhibition seasons seems to be CGs response to these requests. Is that really so? You must be very wise, if you know so much about the 'ultimative desire of the community'.Nice try, but cheap framing...Feel free to search the forums. I'm not trying to say everyone wants live PvP (I don't), and so maybe the use of the phrase "the community" is a bit clumsy, but there is a pretty consistent flow of requests for live PvP with minimal opposition.

speed is king even in non-turnbased games. Ever played FIFA? haha

"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:This is an honest question. PvP in “turned based” games seems inherently flawed to me.. as it heavily depends on who goes first. And yes, I know there is pve in this game.. but it’s pretty weak. It seems like there’s a lot of room for expansion/improvement here. Where’s the creativity? Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing.. There's a lot of PvE in this game, though. Five full boards--eight if you count hard separate from normal--events every day, three different territory battle maps, every raid. PvP is just arena, fleet arena, territory wars (of which there's one, it's now always the same, and is boring af), and grand arena.Who cares if the majority of the community was asking for something? This community is bad. The majority of requests by the majority of the community can be summed up as "I want free stuff and I want to win every time I do something." Grand Arena could be absolutely perfect, and you would still get a thousand complaints from entitled sore losers who are convinced they should have gone 3-0 every time, but "the game" cost them the championship.

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Nihion
6 years ago
"mellamoroberto;c-1915656" wrote:
"Liath;c-1915614" wrote:

Geo TB has quite a few nodes on which you can use any DS characters. It absolutely makes use of characters we already have. It also makes additional characters useful that previously were not, which is something many people have repeatedly asked for.

I see a huge distinction between requiring development of specific characters to complete a task, and actually making them useful.

The former = forced grind and/or spending to participate and/or accomplish something. i.e develop and use these particular characters that may not interest you at all, or lose/miss out

The latter = updating characters so they're as useful and powerful as the "meta" or not making the conscious choice to have new characters obliterate existing ones in the first place.

I prefer the latter. Or perhaps even making certain characters/factions more useful in a particular event like with the bonuses in Sith raid, but not outright requiring them.

True, but required development is better than “I have these terrible characters that I don’t know what to do with.” And geos were just made so much better and will get better still.
homerjsolo
6 years ago
"mellamoroberto;c-1915656" wrote:
"Liath;c-1915614" wrote:

Geo TB has quite a few nodes on which you can use any DS characters. It absolutely makes use of characters we already have. It also makes additional characters useful that previously were not, which is something many people have repeatedly asked for.

I see a huge distinction between requiring development of specific characters to complete a task, and actually making them useful.

The former = forced grind and/or spending to participate and/or accomplish something. i.e develop and use these particular characters that may not interest you at all, or lose/miss out

The latter = updating characters so they're as useful and powerful as the "meta" or not making the conscious choice to have new characters obliterate existing ones in the first place.

I prefer the latter. Or perhaps even making certain characters/factions more useful in a particular event like with the bonuses in Sith raid, but not outright requiring them.

They did both.

For the latter, they udpated GG. They updated B2. They updated Nute. They updated the Geonosian faction (via Brood Alpha, and more reworks may be coming).

I think the difference is that CG is looking at the meta from a GAC perspective and most players are still focused on the arena meta. Separatist Droids, Geonosians, and Padme lead GR (likely required in the LSGTB when it comes) all have a spot in GA now.
vegenigma
6 years ago
Thank you for those replies.

I don't always keep up on the status of the game as well as I should, so could one of you please tell me whether Geo Soldier, Spy, and Sun Fac have been reworked/updated, or what announcements if any have been made regarding changes to them?

I have them at 7* around G9 so developing them a bit more wouldn't be a huge ordeal.

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