Why The Mod Caps?

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"NicWester;c-1406756" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:

"PiffGuru;c-1406746" wrote:
grey mods being trash is not a myth.. the fact that it is grey means that you can ONLY get 1... lets call it layer of the secondarys. if it was a gold then each of the secondaries can go up more and more. so if you are looking for speed secondaries which everyone is.. you cant get more than like 5 speed from a grey mod as opposed to like 10+ speed mods which are extremely desirable.

A grey mod that is a speed primary arrow or a crit damage triangle then sure it will be useful but a random square grey mod or w/e is garbage and you really shouldnt be wasting 100k+ credits to see if you got lucky with a small amount of speed.

That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

The maximum speed you can get on a gray mod is 5. On a green it's 10. Sell your grays (or equip them to pilots that you don't plan to use in battles, because all you need on a pilot is dots and levels).

grey is 5, but green is 11.
Speed secondaries can go up by a max of 6 each time.

"wrekincruw;c-1406762" wrote:

"NicWester;c-1406756" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:

"PiffGuru;c-1406746" wrote:
grey mods being trash is not a myth.. the fact that it is grey means that you can ONLY get 1... lets call it layer of the secondarys. if it was a gold then each of the secondaries can go up more and more. so if you are looking for speed secondaries which everyone is.. you cant get more than like 5 speed from a grey mod as opposed to like 10+ speed mods which are extremely desirable.

A grey mod that is a speed primary arrow or a crit damage triangle then sure it will be useful but a random square grey mod or w/e is garbage and you really shouldnt be wasting 100k+ credits to see if you got lucky with a small amount of speed.

That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

The maximum speed you can get on a gray mod is 5. On a green it's 10. Sell your grays (or equip them to pilots that you don't plan to use in battles, because all you need on a pilot is dots and levels).

Where did you get those statistics if you don't mind me asking also even if it were 5 as a Max or average that is still a good amount and not worth tossing also again I am putting the mods on characters that I don't use but the fact is once I have them on there and I decide to take them off it's going to cost me credits as opposed to mining them from the beginning the way that I want them and not being wasteful

5 is not a good amount. A gold mod could have a speed secondary of 29. (5 to start, then goes up 6 at 3,6,9,12).

Leveling up grey mods is just a waste of time. You're going to eventually replace them all with colored mods anyway.

"wrekincruw;c-1406762" wrote:
Where did you get those statistics if you don't mind me asking also even if it were 5 as a Max or average that is still a good amount and not worth tossing also again I am putting the mods on characters that I don't use but the fact is once I have them on there and I decide to take them off it's going to cost me credits as opposed to mining them from the beginning the way that I want them and not being wasteful

Check the announcements when they revamped mods after they were introduced. All mods, at max level, have 4 secondary stats. You gain a new secondary or level up an existing secondary at levels 3, 6, 9, and 12. With a gray mod you use all four bumps to add new secondary stats. With a green you get three secondaries added and one secondary bumped to the next level (usually, but not always, the initial secondary it had).

Removing mods is a pittance cost unless you're doing it repeatedly. Just throw some jank on those unused characters to improve their GP (or, if they're pilots, to improve their actual combat effectiveness) for Territory Battles, and if they're on defense in a Territory War they'll be a slightly harder out. Jank mods are better than no mods, and the cost of removing a full set is less than 30k, which is roughly 5% of one Galactic War's payout. So just equip all of them for now, then start at the top of your roster and farm specifically what that character needs, then sell off all grays, improve all greens with speed (or other important stat--some tanks don't want speed, but you get the gist) to see if you like what they look like when they're maxed and give them to someone for whom that'd be an improvement. Once that character is done, move onto the next one.

Practical example: I'm fishing for a crit damage triangle (crit chance set) for Kylo Ren. Most of my Clone Troopers need crit sets for HAAT, so any green (or above) with speed is levelled up and given to one of them. Everything else is sold--which, hey, now that I think about it, the profit from selling (and the money saved by not leveling up those grays) is more than going to cover, in the long run, the price of removing a couple jank mods down the line.

"PiffGuru;c-1406768" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:
That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

Its in no way an opinion. thats pretty funny actually.

I guess ill break it down for you. every 3rd level on a mod will apply a secondary stat OR upgrade a secondary stat. so if you start with a grey mod, at lvl 3 6 9 and 12 you will get a secondary stat applied to your mod. If you have a blue mod with 2 secondaries already on there at lvl 1, Then for 2 of those 4 lvls you will get a new secondary stat and the other 2 will UPGRADE one of the secondaries.

So if you have a gold mod at lvl 1 with a speed secondary then you will have 4 chances at increasing the speed. Of course you could get unlucky and only get a garbage secondary stat increased. If you have a grey mod then you will have no opportunity to upgrade one of the secondaries. There is never a situation when you will have a grey mod that gets speed secondary stat above like 5 or 6 speed(cant remember the max in 1 go). Its just not possible, the only way that could happen is if the mod ended up with less than 4 secondaries at lvl 12 which is not possible.

Its very easy to prove aswell. take a grey mod and level it to 3, you will see 1 secondary added, then lvl to 6 and you will see another secondary added and so on. Then take a blue mod and lvl it the same way. you will see at lvl 3 it will add a secondary, then at lvl 6 add the last secondary, then at lvl 9 and 12 there is no more room for another secondary so instead it UPGRADES the current secondary available. Thats how it works, thats how people get 16+ speed secondaries cause that mod had speed already and that stat got upgraded multiple times. there is no 1 time addition of 10+speed, it just doesnt happen cause if it did then those perfect gold mods that got speed upgraded multiple times would be able to go over 40 speed in 1 mod, and that doesnt happen.

I hope you come to understand this cause more knowledge of how this game works can only help people.

I understand the difference between gold grey purple blue and green my point is is that you said that they are trash they are not all trash that is an opinion

"PiffGuru;c-1406768" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:
That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

Its in no way an opinion. thats pretty funny actually.

I guess ill break it down for you. every 3rd level on a mod will apply a secondary stat OR upgrade a secondary stat. so if you start with a grey mod, at lvl 3 6 9 and 12 you will get a secondary stat applied to your mod. If you have a blue mod with 2 secondaries already on there at lvl 1, Then for 2 of those 4 lvls you will get a new secondary stat and the other 2 will UPGRADE one of the secondaries.

So if you have a gold mod at lvl 1 with a speed secondary then you will have 4 chances at increasing the speed. Of course you could get unlucky and only get a garbage secondary stat increased. If you have a grey mod then you will have no opportunity to upgrade one of the secondaries. There is never a situation when you will have a grey mod that gets speed secondary stat above like 5 or 6 speed(cant remember the max in 1 go). Its just not possible, the only way that could happen is if the mod ended up with less than 4 secondaries at lvl 12 which is not possible.

Its very easy to prove aswell. take a grey mod and level it to 3, you will see 1 secondary added, then lvl to 6 and you will see another secondary added and so on. Then take a blue mod and lvl it the same way. you will see at lvl 3 it will add a secondary, then at lvl 6 add the last secondary, then at lvl 9 and 12 there is no more room for another secondary so instead it UPGRADES the current secondary available. Thats how it works, thats how people get 16+ speed secondaries cause that mod had speed already and that stat got upgraded multiple times. there is no 1 time addition of 10+speed, it just doesnt happen cause if it did then those perfect gold mods that got speed upgraded multiple times would be able to go over 40 speed in 1 mod, and that doesnt happen.

I hope you come to understand this cause more knowledge of how this game works can only help people.

That's not quite right either. It will upgrade the secondaries at 3 & 6, then reveal the last two at 9 and 12. But otherwise it's correct.

"NicWester;c-1406789" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406762" wrote:
Where did you get those statistics if you don't mind me asking also even if it were 5 as a Max or average that is still a good amount and not worth tossing also again I am putting the mods on characters that I don't use but the fact is once I have them on there and I decide to take them off it's going to cost me credits as opposed to mining them from the beginning the way that I want them and not being wasteful

Check the announcements when they revamped mods after they were introduced. All mods, at max level, have 4 secondary stats. You gain a new secondary or level up an existing secondary at levels 3, 6, 9, and 12. With a gray mod you use all four bumps to add new secondary stats. With a green you get three secondaries added and one secondary bumped to the next level (usually, but not always, the initial secondary it had).

Removing mods is a pittance cost unless you're doing it repeatedly. Just throw some jank on those unused characters to improve their GP (or, if they're pilots, to improve their actual combat effectiveness) for Territory Battles, and if they're on defense in a Territory War they'll be a slightly harder out. Jank mods are better than no mods, and the cost of removing a full set is less than 30k, which is roughly 5% of one Galactic War's payout. So just equip all of them for now, then start at the top of your roster and farm specifically what that character needs, then sell off all grays, improve all greens with speed (or other important stat--some tanks don't want speed, but you get the gist) to see if you like what they look like when they're maxed and give them to someone for whom that'd be an improvement. Once that character is done, move onto the next one.

Practical example: I'm fishing for a crit damage triangle (crit chance set) for Kylo Ren. Most of my Clone Troopers need crit sets for HAAT, so any green (or above) with speed is levelled up and given to one of them. Everything else is sold--which, hey, now that I think about it, the profit from selling (and the money saved by not leveling up those grays) is more than going to cover, in the long run, the price of removing a couple jank mods down the line.

No, with a green mod, the secondary that was revealed to start is the only one that can increase, so with green mods, there is 100% chance that secondary will be increased.

"wrekincruw;c-1406795" wrote:

"PiffGuru;c-1406768" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:
That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

Its in no way an opinion. thats pretty funny actually.

I guess ill break it down for you. every 3rd level on a mod will apply a secondary stat OR upgrade a secondary stat. so if you start with a grey mod, at lvl 3 6 9 and 12 you will get a secondary stat applied to your mod. If you have a blue mod with 2 secondaries already on there at lvl 1, Then for 2 of those 4 lvls you will get a new secondary stat and the other 2 will UPGRADE one of the secondaries.

So if you have a gold mod at lvl 1 with a speed secondary then you will have 4 chances at increasing the speed. Of course you could get unlucky and only get a garbage secondary stat increased. If you have a grey mod then you will have no opportunity to upgrade one of the secondaries. There is never a situation when you will have a grey mod that gets speed secondary stat above like 5 or 6 speed(cant remember the max in 1 go). Its just not possible, the only way that could happen is if the mod ended up with less than 4 secondaries at lvl 12 which is not possible.

Its very easy to prove aswell. take a grey mod and level it to 3, you will see 1 secondary added, then lvl to 6 and you will see another secondary added and so on. Then take a blue mod and lvl it the same way. you will see at lvl 3 it will add a secondary, then at lvl 6 add the last secondary, then at lvl 9 and 12 there is no more room for another secondary so instead it UPGRADES the current secondary available. Thats how it works, thats how people get 16+ speed secondaries cause that mod had speed already and that stat got upgraded multiple times. there is no 1 time addition of 10+speed, it just doesnt happen cause if it did then those perfect gold mods that got speed upgraded multiple times would be able to go over 40 speed in 1 mod, and that doesnt happen.

I hope you come to understand this cause more knowledge of how this game works can only help people.

I understand the difference between gold grey purple blue and green my point is is that you said that they are trash they are not all trash that is an opinion

That's true. Grey speed arrows, and crit damage triangles are worthwhile. The rest of grey mods are trash. You can argue against this, but holding on to that belief will only hold you back.

"Kiritoismyname;c-1406780" wrote:

"PiffGuru;c-1406768" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:
That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

Its in no way an opinion. thats pretty funny actually.

I guess ill break it down for you. every 3rd level on a mod will apply a secondary stat OR upgrade a secondary stat. so if you start with a grey mod, at lvl 3 6 9 and 12 you will get a secondary stat applied to your mod. If you have a blue mod with 2 secondaries already on there at lvl 1, Then for 2 of those 4 lvls you will get a new secondary stat and the other 2 will UPGRADE one of the secondaries.

So if you have a gold mod at lvl 1 with a speed secondary then you will have 4 chances at increasing the speed. Of course you could get unlucky and only get a garbage secondary stat increased. If you have a grey mod then you will have no opportunity to upgrade one of the secondaries. There is never a situation when you will have a grey mod that gets speed secondary stat above like 5 or 6 speed(cant remember the max in 1 go). Its just not possible, the only way that could happen is if the mod ended up with less than 4 secondaries at lvl 12 which is not possible.

Its very easy to prove aswell. take a grey mod and level it to 3, you will see 1 secondary added, then lvl to 6 and you will see another secondary added and so on. Then take a blue mod and lvl it the same way. you will see at lvl 3 it will add a secondary, then at lvl 6 add the last secondary, then at lvl 9 and 12 there is no more room for another secondary so instead it UPGRADES the current secondary available. Thats how it works, thats how people get 16+ speed secondaries cause that mod had speed already and that stat got upgraded multiple times. there is no 1 time addition of 10+speed, it just doesnt happen cause if it did then those perfect gold mods that got speed upgraded multiple times would be able to go over 40 speed in 1 mod, and that doesnt happen.

I hope you come to understand this cause more knowledge of how this game works can only help people.

+1
Unless you consider +5 or +6 speed good, there's no reason in saving those grey mods :)

5 or 6 is not bad, it is not priven that is a max also speed is not the only good 2nd or 3rd ability you may get with grey mods, and also i have way more upper level mods than grey, the greys i kept i believe to be worth it, the issue is my ability to utilize paid for resources has been compromised, like I said I use my Cantina energy which I have been for a very long time on mods so I have a very solid collection of upper level mods a lot of them I have not maxed out because of credits but if I so choose it should be my option

"Woodroward;c-1406801" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406795" wrote:

"PiffGuru;c-1406768" wrote:

"wrekincruw;c-1406752" wrote:
That's not true at all and I can guarantee you don't have any data to support that because I've gotten many good in high speed mods as secondary when I maxed out a gray that is not true that is your opinion but thank you for your comment

Its in no way an opinion. thats pretty funny actually.

I guess ill break it down for you. every 3rd level on a mod will apply a secondary stat OR upgrade a secondary stat. so if you start with a grey mod, at lvl 3 6 9 and 12 you will get a secondary stat applied to your mod. If you have a blue mod with 2 secondaries already on there at lvl 1, Then for 2 of those 4 lvls you will get a new secondary stat and the other 2 will UPGRADE one of the secondaries.

So if you have a gold mod at lvl 1 with a speed secondary then you will have 4 chances at increasing the speed. Of course you could get unlucky and only get a garbage secondary stat increased. If you have a grey mod then you will have no opportunity to upgrade one of the secondaries. There is never a situation when you will have a grey mod that gets speed secondary stat above like 5 or 6 speed(cant remember the max in 1 go). Its just not possible, the only way that could happen is if the mod ended up with less than 4 secondaries at lvl 12 which is not possible.

Its very easy to prove aswell. take a grey mod and level it to 3, you will see 1 secondary added, then lvl to 6 and you will see another secondary added and so on. Then take a blue mod and lvl it the same way. you will see at lvl 3 it will add a secondary, then at lvl 6 add the last secondary, then at lvl 9 and 12 there is no more room for another secondary so instead it UPGRADES the current secondary available. Thats how it works, thats how people get 16+ speed secondaries cause that mod had speed already and that stat got upgraded multiple times. there is no 1 time addition of 10+speed, it just doesnt happen cause if it did then those perfect gold mods that got speed upgraded multiple times would be able to go over 40 speed in 1 mod, and that doesnt happen.

I hope you come to understand this cause more knowledge of how this game works can only help people.

I understand the difference between gold grey purple blue and green my point is is that you said that they are trash they are not all trash that is an opinion

That's true. Grey speed arrows, and crit damage triangles are worthwhile. The rest of grey mods are trash. You can argue against this, but holding on to that belief will only hold you back.

So you have no use for potency, crit chance, protection, etc...? Well ok then..