Will The Separatist Rework Be Meta Defying?

And on the droids, seems like they are aiming very specifically at Revan/GMY buff teams. Whats missing still is an anti assist ability.

Magnaguard or Deka getting a Nest like ability or huge evasion tanking thing - like chopper or Sidious on steroids - against jedi. Or higher counter and dispel on basic or unavoidable TM reduction - something. Lots of possibilities.

"VonZant;c-1771375" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771362" wrote:

"Ephran;c-1770697" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1770571" wrote:

"Revan_Presence;c-1768210" wrote:

General Grievous, a cyborg that got pretty much soloed by a single jedi in canon... As a counter for a best jedi there is?

Not by just any Jedi but by Obi-Wan, the Jedi Master who bested the chosen one. Besides, the prequels don't do Grievous justice. He was a veritable Jedi killing machine in the 2003 Clone Wars series and also seemed pretty capable in the 3D-animated show from 2008.

In both shows Dooku says that Grievous is no match for a Jedi head to head and that he needs to use fear and intimidation tactics to even the match. In 2003 we only saw his fights after thoroughly intimidating his opponents, in the movies and the '08 show we see a lot of times when he's up against Kenobi, who doesn't afraid of anything.

He uses intimidation in much the same way his Sith masters do. But we also saw him take on five Jedi at once, at least two of whom were battle-hardened masters (Aayla and Ki-Adi-Mundi), and kill or incapacitate all but one of them. Sure, they were a bit shook up after watching a sixth Jedi die by Grievous... feet actually, not hand, but he nonetheless demonstrated a considerable amount of skill in this encounter.

@Darth_DeVito what is this scene from? Ive watched clone wars more than once. Never seen the cartoon version though. Can you point me in right direction?

Here is the IMDb link: https://imdb.com/title/tt0361243/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt I think it was the last episode of season 2.

You can find it on YouTube too. The scene is at 1:05. https://youtu.be/EwkNO8DDV1U?t=3936

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771464" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1771375" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771362" wrote:

"Ephran;c-1770697" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1770571" wrote:

"Revan_Presence;c-1768210" wrote:

General Grievous, a cyborg that got pretty much soloed by a single jedi in canon... As a counter for a best jedi there is?

Not by just any Jedi but by Obi-Wan, the Jedi Master who bested the chosen one. Besides, the prequels don't do Grievous justice. He was a veritable Jedi killing machine in the 2003 Clone Wars series and also seemed pretty capable in the 3D-animated show from 2008.

In both shows Dooku says that Grievous is no match for a Jedi head to head and that he needs to use fear and intimidation tactics to even the match. In 2003 we only saw his fights after thoroughly intimidating his opponents, in the movies and the '08 show we see a lot of times when he's up against Kenobi, who doesn't afraid of anything.

He uses intimidation in much the same way his Sith masters do. But we also saw him take on five Jedi at once, at least two of whom were battle-hardened masters (Aayla and Ki-Adi-Mundi), and kill or incapacitate all but one of them. Sure, they were a bit shook up after watching a sixth Jedi die by Grievous... feet actually, not hand, but he nonetheless demonstrated a considerable amount of skill in this encounter.

@Darth_DeVito what is this scene from? Ive watched clone wars more than once. Never seen the cartoon version though. Can you point me in right direction?

Here is the IMDb link: https://imdb.com/title/tt0361243/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt I think it was the last episode of season 2.

Just as an FYI - the first clone wars series (2003-2005) in your link had its canonicty superseded by the second clone wars series (2008-2014). Many of the character portrayals and events were inconsistent between the two. One of the biggest differences is that the first series really pumped everything up (jedi and GG in particular) to the nth degree of power. The canon series is much less fantastical in that aspect.

"evoluza;c-1771545" wrote:

"7AnimalMother;c-1771520" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771464" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1771375" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771362" wrote:

"Ephran;c-1770697" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1770571" wrote:

"Revan_Presence;c-1768210" wrote:

General Grievous, a cyborg that got pretty much soloed by a single jedi in canon... As a counter for a best jedi there is?

Not by just any Jedi but by Obi-Wan, the Jedi Master who bested the chosen one. Besides, the prequels don't do Grievous justice. He was a veritable Jedi killing machine in the 2003 Clone Wars series and also seemed pretty capable in the 3D-animated show from 2008.

In both shows Dooku says that Grievous is no match for a Jedi head to head and that he needs to use fear and intimidation tactics to even the match. In 2003 we only saw his fights after thoroughly intimidating his opponents, in the movies and the '08 show we see a lot of times when he's up against Kenobi, who doesn't afraid of anything.

He uses intimidation in much the same way his Sith masters do. But we also saw him take on five Jedi at once, at least two of whom were battle-hardened masters (Aayla and Ki-Adi-Mundi), and kill or incapacitate all but one of them. Sure, they were a bit shook up after watching a sixth Jedi die by Grievous... feet actually, not hand, but he nonetheless demonstrated a considerable amount of skill in this encounter.

@Darth_DeVito what is this scene from? Ive watched clone wars more than once. Never seen the cartoon version though. Can you point me in right direction?

Here is the IMDb link: https://imdb.com/title/tt0361243/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt I think it was the last episode of season 2.

Just as an FYI - the first clone wars series (2003-2005) in your link had its canonicty superseded by the second clone wars series (2008-2014). Many of the character portrayals and events were inconsistent between the two. One of the biggest differences is that the first series really pumped everything up (jedi and GG in particular) to the nth degree of power. The canon series is much less fantastical in that aspect.

Because they didn't get there visual right, doesn't change the fact that Grievous was a Jedi slayer. Jedi and even the sith feared him, because of his potential.
Kenobi was send to beat him, because of his defensiv fighting style.

It's not just the visual that is a difference between the first series and the second. In the first, GG had a beastly power level based on the feats he accomplished. Certainly he would have been feared by Jedi and sith.

In the second (now cannon) series, he was significantly toned down. Maybe he wasn't quite comic relief, but it certainly seemed like he spent more time running away from Jedi, than slaying them.... Watching the second series, I never got a "fearsome" vibe.

"7AnimalMother;c-1771605" wrote:

"evoluza;c-1771545" wrote:

"7AnimalMother;c-1771520" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771464" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1771375" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771362" wrote:

"Ephran;c-1770697" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1770571" wrote:

"Revan_Presence;c-1768210" wrote:

General Grievous, a cyborg that got pretty much soloed by a single jedi in canon... As a counter for a best jedi there is?

Not by just any Jedi but by Obi-Wan, the Jedi Master who bested the chosen one. Besides, the prequels don't do Grievous justice. He was a veritable Jedi killing machine in the 2003 Clone Wars series and also seemed pretty capable in the 3D-animated show from 2008.

In both shows Dooku says that Grievous is no match for a Jedi head to head and that he needs to use fear and intimidation tactics to even the match. In 2003 we only saw his fights after thoroughly intimidating his opponents, in the movies and the '08 show we see a lot of times when he's up against Kenobi, who doesn't afraid of anything.

He uses intimidation in much the same way his Sith masters do. But we also saw him take on five Jedi at once, at least two of whom were battle-hardened masters (Aayla and Ki-Adi-Mundi), and kill or incapacitate all but one of them. Sure, they were a bit shook up after watching a sixth Jedi die by Grievous... feet actually, not hand, but he nonetheless demonstrated a considerable amount of skill in this encounter.

@Darth_DeVito what is this scene from? Ive watched clone wars more than once. Never seen the cartoon version though. Can you point me in right direction?

Here is the IMDb link: https://imdb.com/title/tt0361243/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt I think it was the last episode of season 2.

Just as an FYI - the first clone wars series (2003-2005) in your link had its canonicty superseded by the second clone wars series (2008-2014). Many of the character portrayals and events were inconsistent between the two. One of the biggest differences is that the first series really pumped everything up (jedi and GG in particular) to the nth degree of power. The canon series is much less fantastical in that aspect.

Because they didn't get there visual right, doesn't change the fact that Grievous was a Jedi slayer. Jedi and even the sith feared him, because of his potential.
Kenobi was send to beat him, because of his defensiv fighting style.

It's not just the visual that is a difference between the first series and the second. In the first, GG had a beastly power level based on the feats he accomplished. Certainly he would have been feared by Jedi and sith.

In the second (now cannon) series, he was significantly toned down. Maybe he wasn't quite comic relief, but it certainly seemed like he spent more time running away from Jedi, than slaying them.... Watching the second series, I never got a "fearsome" vibe.

I'm a misremembering something, or are his lightsabers all from jedi he slayed? That's kinda badass right?

"leef;c-1771610" wrote:

"7AnimalMother;c-1771605" wrote:

"evoluza;c-1771545" wrote:

"7AnimalMother;c-1771520" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771464" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1771375" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1771362" wrote:

"Ephran;c-1770697" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1770571" wrote:

"Revan_Presence;c-1768210" wrote:

General Grievous, a cyborg that got pretty much soloed by a single jedi in canon... As a counter for a best jedi there is?

Not by just any Jedi but by Obi-Wan, the Jedi Master who bested the chosen one. Besides, the prequels don't do Grievous justice. He was a veritable Jedi killing machine in the 2003 Clone Wars series and also seemed pretty capable in the 3D-animated show from 2008.

In both shows Dooku says that Grievous is no match for a Jedi head to head and that he needs to use fear and intimidation tactics to even the match. In 2003 we only saw his fights after thoroughly intimidating his opponents, in the movies and the '08 show we see a lot of times when he's up against Kenobi, who doesn't afraid of anything.

He uses intimidation in much the same way his Sith masters do. But we also saw him take on five Jedi at once, at least two of whom were battle-hardened masters (Aayla and Ki-Adi-Mundi), and kill or incapacitate all but one of them. Sure, they were a bit shook up after watching a sixth Jedi die by Grievous... feet actually, not hand, but he nonetheless demonstrated a considerable amount of skill in this encounter.

@Darth_DeVito what is this scene from? Ive watched clone wars more than once. Never seen the cartoon version though. Can you point me in right direction?

Here is the IMDb link: https://imdb.com/title/tt0361243/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt I think it was the last episode of season 2.

Just as an FYI - the first clone wars series (2003-2005) in your link had its canonicty superseded by the second clone wars series (2008-2014). Many of the character portrayals and events were inconsistent between the two. One of the biggest differences is that the first series really pumped everything up (jedi and GG in particular) to the nth degree of power. The canon series is much less fantastical in that aspect.

Because they didn't get there visual right, doesn't change the fact that Grievous was a Jedi slayer. Jedi and even the sith feared him, because of his potential.
Kenobi was send to beat him, because of his defensiv fighting style.

It's not just the visual that is a difference between the first series and the second. In the first, GG had a beastly power level based on the feats he accomplished. Certainly he would have been feared by Jedi and sith.

In the second (now cannon) series, he was significantly toned down. Maybe he wasn't quite comic relief, but it certainly seemed like he spent more time running away from Jedi, than slaying them.... Watching the second series, I never got a "fearsome" vibe.

I'm a misremembering something, or are his lightsabers all from jedi he slayed? That's kinda badass right?

Yes, he collects and uses the lightsabers from the Jedi he has killed.

In the book Revenge of the Sith, GK changes fighting styles while fighting Grevious, making it hard for Grevious to analyze how to defeat him.
So up to that point Grevious lead the droid army against the Jedi. He should be strong against them.

I sure hope they’re good. Put way too many resources into grevious for them not to be lol

Revan.
Toilet.
Flush.
Hello Mr Grevious ?