garbage! yes the falcon is!

"leef;c-1868748" wrote:

"TheRealMattMan;c-1868742" wrote:
The only potential snag with Cassian is if HT resists and keeps it's taunt. To end up taking out HT but it's difficult to still take out the Falcon before it uses it's special again. After that, it becomes RNG dependent.

that's a user error, just don't call in cassian if you're breached.

People haven't worked this out? Read the kits then come back and moan ?

"VonZant;c-1869211" wrote:
I agree the Falcon is a pox on fleet right now and meta needs to change asap.

But as a few others have pointed out if you are not winning on offense 90% of the time you are doing it wrong. I use a 5* Falcon, 6* HT, g8 Cassian with no 6e mods on anyone but Han and Chewie. Read the post up above from @Palanthian and try again.

you win with your undergeared fleet against a fully maxed bistan fleet (again, eveyone with gear 12.5 and 6* mods) 90% of the time ?

sorry, I dont believe you a word.

I bet most people here claiming how easy they destroy everything with their crap fleet have not even seen a fully maxed bistan fleet.
Only g12 or g12.3 is easy

Always the same " hey, dr is garbage, I can beat him with my crap team" and not mentioning that the opponent had no mods and no zetas

Not surprised anymore honestly.

"mikk207;c-1869249" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1869211" wrote:
I agree the Falcon is a pox on fleet right now and meta needs to change asap.

But as a few others have pointed out if you are not winning on offense 90% of the time you are doing it wrong. I use a 5* Falcon, 6* HT, g8 Cassian with no 6e mods on anyone but Han and Chewie. Read the post up above from @Palanthian and try again.

you win with your undergeared fleet against a fully maxed bistan fleet (again, eveyone with gear 12.5 and 6* mods) 90% of the time ?

sorry, I dont believe you a word.

I have no reason to lie to you. I never refresh and can get top 5-15. If I do all of my battles and dont lose 1 can get 1 without a refresh. If I refreshed could get 1 every day. I said 90% because most days I dont lose a battle and sometimes I lose 1. So between 80-100% success so I used 90%. Perhaps its actually 84.2% or 93.1%. But its in that range.

Recently I manually fight 1 or 2 and hit auto for the rest while I'm playing Magic just because fleet has gotten boring. Thats enough for 10-20. But If I fight all 5 I can get 1-5 every day.

Here is a screen with all 3 meta fleets with me at 1 and the others at 2,3,4. Yes they are maxxed fleets. In fact, as I said in another thread recently, I think it is easier to kill Bistan fleets than the others with a slower Akbar. If I can't cleanse breach then the AI reinforces with their Biggs and calls mass assist and kills the breached tank. Then I follow with Cassian and their Falcon dies. Then its game over for them. The Tie/Poe and HT/Biggs versions are much more burstyy and random fights.

I honestly dont care if you believe me, but perhaps you should take some of the advice in this thread and write out the steps and follow them. Because it works, even with my jalopy fleet in a January-ish 2017 fleet shard. ;)

"VonZant;c-1869300" wrote:

"mikk207;c-1869249" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1869211" wrote:
I agree the Falcon is a pox on fleet right now and meta needs to change asap.

But as a few others have pointed out if you are not winning on offense 90% of the time you are doing it wrong. I use a 5* Falcon, 6* HT, g8 Cassian with no 6e mods on anyone but Han and Chewie. Read the post up above from @Palanthian and try again.

you win with your undergeared fleet against a fully maxed bistan fleet (again, eveyone with gear 12.5 and 6* mods) 90% of the time ?

sorry, I dont believe you a word.

I have no reason to lie to you. I never refresh and can get top 5-15. If I do all of my battles and dont lose 1 can get 1 without a refresh. If I refreshed could get 1 every day. I said 90% because most days I dont lose a battle and sometimes I lose 1. So between 80-100% success so I used 90%. Perhaps its actually 84.2% or 93.1%. But its in that range.

Recently I manually fight 1 or 2 and hit auto for the rest while I'm playing Magic just because fleet has gotten boring. Thats enough for 10-20. But If I fight all 5 I can get 1-5 every day.

Here is a screen with all 3 meta fleets with me at 1 and the others at 2,3,4. Yes they are maxxed fleets. In fact, as I said in another thread recently, I think it is easier to kill Bistan fleets than the others with a slower Akbar. If I can't cleanse breach then the AI reinforces with their Biggs and calls mass assist and kills the breached tank. Then I follow with Cassian and their Falcon dies. Then its game over for them. The Tie/Poe and HT/Biggs versions are much more burstyy and random fights.

I honestly dont care if you believe me, but perhaps you should take some of the advice in this thread and write out the steps and follow them. Because it works, even with my jalopy fleet in a January-ish 2017 fleet shard. ;)

and again, I am talking about "maxed" bistan fleets, not the easy others ones.
If you want to proofe something like you tried with your picture, show your opponents g12.5 biggs with 6* mods

I dont say that you cant take first spot, I just dont believe you would have a 90% success rate against a "maxed" bistan fleet.
It depends how developed your shard is.

And tbh, your shard does not look very developed

"VonZant;c-1869300" wrote:

"mikk207;c-1869249" wrote:

"VonZant;c-1869211" wrote:
I agree the Falcon is a pox on fleet right now and meta needs to change asap.

But as a few others have pointed out if you are not winning on offense 90% of the time you are doing it wrong. I use a 5* Falcon, 6* HT, g8 Cassian with no 6e mods on anyone but Han and Chewie. Read the post up above from @Palanthian and try again.

you win with your undergeared fleet against a fully maxed bistan fleet (again, eveyone with gear 12.5 and 6* mods) 90% of the time ?

sorry, I dont believe you a word.

I have no reason to lie to you. I never refresh and can get top 5-15. If I do all of my battles and dont lose 1 can get 1 without a refresh. If I refreshed could get 1 every day. I said 90% because most days I dont lose a battle and sometimes I lose 1. So between 80-100% success so I used 90%. Perhaps its actually 84.2% or 93.1%. But its in that range.

Recently I manually fight 1 or 2 and hit auto for the rest while I'm playing Magic just because fleet has gotten boring. Thats enough for 10-20. But If I fight all 5 I can get 1-5 every day.

Here is a screen with all 3 meta fleets with me at 1 and the others at 2,3,4. Yes they are maxxed fleets. In fact, as I said in another thread recently, I think it is easier to kill Bistan fleets than the others with a slower Akbar. If I can't cleanse breach then the AI reinforces with their Biggs and calls mass assist and kills the breached tank. Then I follow with Cassian and their Falcon dies. Then its game over for them. The Tie/Poe and HT/Biggs versions are much more burstyy and random fights.

I honestly dont care if you believe me, but perhaps you should take some of the advice in this thread and write out the steps and follow them. Because it works, even with my jalopy fleet in a January-ish 2017 fleet shard. ;)

That’s lovely for you but if you brought that fleet to my shard you would be out of the top 100 about an hour after you stopped fighting for the day.

CG has consistently stated that they want arena to have a “paper scissors rock” feel to it, and for better or worse it has turned into one. Heck they even made it possible for 5* HMF to beat 7* teams. The Sith ships are garbage right now, and these days I look at fleet arena as a chore.

@mikk207 - we have no Biggs with more than 1 6e mod in our top 10. Same for Bistan. Are you saying that everyone on your shard has them both 12.5 + 6x6e? Screens of these 10 uber Biggs you face everyday, please.

@Liath are you saying there is not a single 5* falcon in your top 50?

If y'all do have a full shard of 12.566e then I am impressed and feel for you. I think very few shards are like your uber shards. I honestly dont see how it changes the fact that a g8 Cassian can nuke a 7* g12 Falcon and then literally no one else on the enemy fleet matters. But again maybe y'all are just god shards that play by different rules.

Not all shards are created equal. Some are way more competitive.