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10 years ago

Is Vader supposed to be so weak?

For the hardest obtainable character in game he appears to be extremely weak. I just unlocked him and he seems pretty dissapointing.

1st) His basic attack damage is pathetically weak. Before you mention that it has chance to ability block, well, other character's basic attacks do get buff/debuff and deal a lot more damage. Im not expecting Tie pilot kind of damage, but at least like sidious/jedi consular damage.

2nd) He is very slow. In fact, he is that slow that after applying his aoe debuffs, fast enemies have time to play 2 turns before vader gets his turn again to throw his blade and their debuffs are gone. And all that, just for his 1 time trick that can be performed once per battle.

3rd) Its impossible to star up. At the time you unlock him he is almost mediocre. When you get him (if ever get him) to 5 stars, then i'm pretty sure you ll have some beasts in your team like Rey, Leia, QG jinn, Luminara, Pilot etc.. sitting at 6-7 stars.

4th) His leader ability only works for some of the weakest characters in the game (Haven't tested that yet but im not in mood to get snowtrooper, veers and imperials just to check it out)

I only met him a couple of times in GW (never in arena) and just ignored him and killed him last. He was no threat and the terribly AI adds to that. (He throw his ligthsaber on a target with no debuffs on).

So, what you guys think?

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  • Don't pass judgement till you have leveled him up. He is a strong character. Not OP, but strong. His speed is average. He has a ton of health, hits hard with ability block and debuffs the other team.
  • He is extremely annoying when faced on Galactic War teams. I will tell you that much right there haha, and his force crush paired with IG-88's aoe works wonders.
  • Well i would give him a chance (if i could) But he is stuck at 4* while everyone can advance more.
    I compared him with my B team with Luke, Ashoka, Resistance Pilot, Jedi consular and boba fett and he appeared to be worse than anyone even though he outgeared most of them.
    With my A team he doesn't even get close.

    And with AOE + 3rd skill combo its a 2 turn attack, and vader is already slow. That kind of damage can be easily achieved by most characters, geonosian soldier, Rey, ig86, qui-gon, tie pilot and others, in 1 turn only.

    Maybe devs should add more achievements to get him above 4 stars, because he is one of the most important figures in Star wars and in this game he is the only one that cant get above 4-5 stars.

  • He is a great offensive asset when paired with AOEers that go before him. His saber through 1 hits a lot of characters with 4-6 AOE on them. He usually survives 1st turns.

    My vader is pretty good for battle
    61 gear 7 elite, just 4* though
  • "CPMP;85678" wrote:
    Well i would give him a chance (if i could) But he is stuck at 4* while everyone can advance more.
    I compared him with my B team with Luke, Ashoka, Resistance Pilot, Jedi consular and boba fett and he appeared to be worse than anyone even though he outgeared most of them.
    With my A team he doesn't even get close.

    And with AOE + 3rd skill combo its a 2 turn attack, and vader is already slow. That kind of damage can be easily achieved by most characters, geonosian soldier, Rey, ig86, qui-gon, tie pilot and others, in 1 turn only.

    Maybe devs should add more achievements to get him above 4 stars, because he is one of the most important figures in Star wars and in this game he is the only one that cant get above 4-5 stars.



    Notice that as he is slow, you don't need to AOE with him. Sid + Ben/boba/HK47 can fill the debuffs for him. Then he oneshots biggest threat
  • "CPMP;85678" wrote:

    Maybe devs should add more achievements to get him above 4 stars, because he is one of the most important figures in Star wars and in this game he is the only one that cant get above 4-5 stars.



    Before the lv 70 update, Devs stated the highest he could get (at that time) was 5* if you did all the achievements. That is why they left all 6 and 7 star vaders with the power of a 5* since that was the highest attainable. I do not know (but seriously doubt) there were enough 60-70 achievements to be able to 6* him though. But he is still able to get 5*. just keep at those chieves!
  • I got him 60lvl and gear VII + 4/6 .
    Nope, he is still very bad. Can't even perform the AOE + throw saber combo if enemy has fast characters or phasma or Talia. They get 2 turns and remove debuff before Vader gets his 2nd turn. He is very slow and his damage is bellow average. The aoe has low damage even with sidious as leader. I can try get him to VIII but i don't think he worth it since you can't get him above 4* stars.
    I think slow characters should have higher damage than faster ones to make up for their lack of speed.
    When you see characters like Geonosian soldier calling assist every second round, being among top speed characters, getting additional turn meter from crits and getting offence buff too, there is nothing really to compare.
    Is it balanced to have 2 attacks that do X damage vs 4 attacks that do 3X damage within the same amount of time? The more i play the more i realise that speed = everything in this game.

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